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Afro88
Joined: Jun 20, 2004 Posts: 701 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Tim Kleinert
Joined: Mar 12, 2004 Posts: 1148 Location: Zürich, Switzerland
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:56 am Post subject:
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It sounds sampling-based to my ears. Like a downpitched snippet of something.
I guess you could synthesize it somehow -I hear a "noise" component and a tonal component. Perhaps trying to get the formants of those two components right by means of static phasing or comb filters, EQs etc. and then shape the transients might be a good start. That's the route I would try. |
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ian-s
Joined: Apr 01, 2004 Posts: 2669 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:07 am Post subject:
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It took a while for the sound to come in to focus for some reason. What I hear sounds like a sample of someone going "showmff" into a vocoder (one with a working unvoiced detector). |
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Afro88
Joined: Jun 20, 2004 Posts: 701 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject:
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Perhaps a downpitched sample of a vocoder perhaps? I'll try some stuff out...
Thanks for the ideas guys |
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astroid power-up!
Joined: Mar 23, 2004 Posts: 334
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject:
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yeah sounds like someone's mouth to me, too. _________________ Astroid Power-Up!: "googleplex" available at:
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Axiom
Joined: Feb 19, 2005 Posts: 288 Location: Italy
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:19 am Post subject:
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seems a filtered drumloop to me... anyways, you can get a similar sound with a noise through a lowpass with sequenced cutoff.
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suthnear
Joined: Dec 14, 2005 Posts: 22 Location: the end of the world
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:22 am Post subject:
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fwiw, it sounds like two sounds to me: a fairly standard multi-osc lead sound doing the (minor) chord and a filtered noise bit over the top. The key to the chord sound is an element of detune: so it's either multi-oscillators slightly detuned, a chorus unit or unison. Or, as others have suggested, a vocoder. Just use noise as the source. It's difficult to say exactly which because the second sound is masking the first a bit. The sound is also filtered through a fairly closed LPF and there's definitely some envelope on it - a fairly slow attack, gentle release. It's the chord that provides the 'show' component.
The second sound is noise through a resonant LPF (or fairly wide band pass - I'm not sure if it's the noise colour or the filter that is removing the lower frequencies) and it's the filter movement on this that's providing the shape, the 'mff'. Particularly, the sound is played with the filter closed, slightly before the chord and the filter is opened into that sound (if you know what I mean). There's delay on it, too.
I am sure I could do this on the g2, but all my gear is packed up at the moment because the floor is being repaired. If I have some time tonight I'll install the editor on my work laptop and see if I can match it for you and provide a patch. |
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suthnear
Joined: Dec 14, 2005 Posts: 22 Location: the end of the world
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sheridan
Joined: Jun 05, 2005 Posts: 473 Location: London, England
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:37 am Post subject:
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Personally, I don't think vocals were used although there could possibly be a vocoder used on the noise element of the sound. I think Suthnear is on the right track.
It sounds to me that the lower, bassier part of the sound is not 'in tune', ie. maybe it uses low amounts of FM or large amounts of detune (5 or 7 semitones?) to get the fullness that it exhibits. As for the noise element, is the 'mffff' even part of the sound, or is it separate, but similar sounding - it is panned to a different place and not panned across from the place the 'shhhh' comes from either?
It could just be a sampled waveform though... didn't Orbital love using their Korg M1 (or was it Z1) back in those days? _________________ Sheridan
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Afro88
Joined: Jun 20, 2004 Posts: 701 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject:
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suthnear - Thanks for that patch. It's definitely a noise source and a synth of some kind. I haven't had a chance to play around with a vocoder with a proper unvoiced detector like g2ian said, but I think if I feed a sound similar to your patch (minus noise) into it and go "showww" into the mic it may sound similar.
Sheridan - You're right, the ff part isn't actually part of the showmff sound. The showm is spread across the speakers, but the ff is centered. |
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