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  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:07 pm    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
ok - so got to change the j111, the LM311N and the OPA2137 with fresh new components today as new parts arrived. Sadly it made no difference.
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:01 am    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
And the recalibration did not change the behaviour.

As I have three boards with the same issue, it think is is unlikely (but not impossible) that I did the same mistake three times.

Perhaps it ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:12 pm    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
Why do all the images show 1.00 V/ except the last one which has 2.00 V/? Is that the volts per division or something else?

Yes it is the voltage division. The pictures were not taken in the order ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:30 am    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
Oh, sorry, you need to turn your coupling from AC to DC so we can see what the DC offset is.

Also, U6 pin 7 doesn't look right, the amplitude doubled. You sure that wasn't pin 1?

Ah my mistake, ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:24 pm    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
And the same but U6 pin7 against U5 pin3

They are identical

50 Hz
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  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:12 pm    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth

I'm curious what the actual voltages are at U5 pin 2 and the gate of the JFET (probably need to scope them because of the pulsing) as well as the signal at U5 pin 3 (should look like U6 pin 7 but I' ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:42 am    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth

Based on that, off hand I'd say double check C7 (100pF), that both emitters of J4 are connected to R15, R15 is not shorted and that the base of J4 that should be connected to ground actually is.

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  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:31 am    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth

The rail voltages are the approx. +/- 10.6V you see out of the 7xL12, you're near 0V which is in the middle. .

Ah yes, my mistake. I misread you and thought it was not supposed to be close to GND ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:35 pm    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth

3. U3b pin 7 should be a constant negative voltage (for a given frequency setting) but not too close to the negative rail voltage.

Let me know what you find and we'll go from there.

Changing t ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:00 pm    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth


I would suggest starting by checking the following:
1. 5V reference : check at U7a pin 1, C8, Q1 drain and R13 to make sure they all have the same constant voltage of approximately 5V.


Defin ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:28 pm    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
Thanks the input. I’ll try it out and let you know. I am away for a few days but will take a look as soon as I get home
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:41 pm    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
OK - so last weekend i tried to convert one of the VCO's to running +/- 15 volts, (changed the 78l15 and 79l15, and the three resistors) to see if that would make a difference. But unfortunately every ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:34 am    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
Thanks - I really appreciate it - let me know if you need a closeup photo of anything.
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:22 am    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
You are absolutely right - I did remove the R12 on my other boards, when I installed the tempo. It will not work with both as you say, but I the odd behaviour pictured above with the scopes was with t ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:24 am    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
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  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:06 pm    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
Yeah - All three boards act the same way, and I have double checked the caps so many times I have lost count Smile

The J112 is also placed correct according to the PCB layout. I have tried replacing ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:42 am    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
OK - so I had a further look, but still not found the solution. Also tried he boards/pots when they were not connected to the panel, but it made no difference. Ive put on the oscilliscope on the sine ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:25 am    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth

the value of the trimmer t1 should not be so crucial, but in the schematic the value is 220k --> do u have a 100K?

I have a 200K trimmer for T1. That should be alright according to the build i ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:36 pm    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
Just noticed that i only have a 20k port for the T2 10 turn trimmer. I dont have a 22k/or25K so Ill have to get some before i can test, but perhaps that could be explanaiton?
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:49 am    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
Thanks for our help Gabbagabi.

Yes, I can easlily make it go down below 200 with the pots. The out of tune "drift" happens below 200 Hz regardless of the pot setting, as long as the " ...
  Topic: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
hoby

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:51 pm    Subject: Yusynth VCO problem tracking at low frequencies
Subject description: VCO tracking problem
Forum:  DIY Hardware and Software » YuSynth
I have just finished building 3 yusynth VCO's using circuitboards from soundtronics.

Everything seems to work - different waveshapes etc, but i can not get the VCO to track at below 200 Hz - on al ...
 
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