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1V per octave for WP20?
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j.frad



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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:53 am    Post subject: 1V per octave for WP20? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi every one, I'm all new to the world of synths and to this forum (been building guitar effects for a while though) and I'm planning on building a WP20.

I know there's no longer an official support for this machine so I'm turning to you guys to find out if the VCO is already 1V/octave or is moddable for it.
My plan is to recycle an old electronic organ to get two keyboards and control one or two WP20s
Thanks a lot for any help!
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: 1V per octave for WP20? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

welcome j.frad
i don't know the answer to your question but lets hope that it will get answered - there are some of us that have build the WP20

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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks for the welcome!
I hope so, the schematics of the VCOs are pretty different though...
On the minisynth the 1V/oct is done around the base of the Q1 and Q2 transistors, it's juste adding a trim and a resistor to ground.
Problem:I have no idea what those transistors do and I really have no clue if there is a similar part on the WP20 VCOs.

I don't have the appropriate knowledge about oscillators...
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 1V per octave for WP20? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

j.frad wrote:
I know there's no longer an official support for this machine so I'm turning to you guys to find out if the VCO is already 1V/octave or is moddable for it.

hi j.frad (welcome to electro-music.com forum),
the wp20 does not work based on 1V/octave...
I don't know if it is possible to make mods at this purpose... unfortunately, my skills in electronics are pretty limited so I really cannot help you out...
sorry...
ladislao

(btw, my avatar is a WP20 Smile)
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And it looks great! I guess I'll have to built a Minisynth too then! Well that's a good excuse at least...
I could still use the WP20 with a guitar trigger.

My electronic organ is almost fully working, but some keys give no sound and I haven't been able to find the bug, I'd be sad to take it apart for the keyboards and loose the sounds of it and the polyphony.
It's got a nice beat machine in it too, but having 4 of the C keys not working is a handicap!
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've built the WP20, and thought of adding fine tuning to it, postponed to some future date at current, but still, as it is, I've gotten it to play almost in tune across, well, two octaves at most.

This was done by
- Switching modulation to "manual"
- Switching "controls" - or whatever you label that center knob - to "A.D."
- Tweaking the two of them, along with "VCA sensitivity" until it fit some scale or other


Though I was able to play melody-like fragments, I was left with a very thin sound. What I will be doing is add an external power supply, because the 9V batteries left me with an hour of playtime before the synth drifted out of tune again and would skip triggering every now and then.

I used a Waldorf Pulse (+) to control it. Can't say I found much difference in reliability by alternating between V/oct and Hz/oct settings. (Each needs it's own tuning, though.)

Others might have had better results. I've started to think that this synth was perhaps ment to imitate bird calls, limited to the duck-familly only. (Or, with the LFO nearing maximum, to scare off kids, cats, roadies and sound techs.)

Best of luck, though.

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks for sharing your experience! I'll build it any time soon and see what I can do with it...
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