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anachron · Joined: Apr 08, 2008 Posts: 7 Location: uk

i have to admit i'm a bit surprised they havent released another beta since v1.41 b272.

i found one repeatable bug in the current release (macintel), try clicking help on the contextual menu for any object in the patch window... on my machine the editor crashes without leaving a crash log.

i also noticed that occasionally the audio meters in some of the objects stop working.

i've not had a problem with patches getting corrupted tho...

j

blue hell · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:25 am Post subject:

ark · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:02 am Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:07 am Post subject:

gomidas · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:54 am Post subject:

Just to say that I migrate to xp sp2(bootcamp), cannot wait six more months for a MacIntel version, I use nord modular G1/G2/G3? exclusively for my music.

The problem is that I still have frequent errors -connection lost/check usb cable- undre xp Evil or Very Mad

Is there a workaround for those USB DISCO NNECTIONS????
Does a SHORTER USB CABLE will save my life????
I have two G2engines, and even plugged directly in the macbook pro usb(osx or winxp) the problem still occur...CHECK USB CABLE
I always had this /check usb cable/ problem since I bought the engines. Rolling Eyes

blue hell · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject:

anachron · Joined: Apr 08, 2008 Posts: 7 Location: uk

another problem i noticed is that occasionally (seems random), the editor will not load... it sort of starts doing it's thing, but then it just disappears. it seems i can usually fix this by rebooting the G2 (keyboard version), although on some occasions i also have to reboot the computer.

from my experience, the software is usable in its current form. but it's definitely not bug free!

I'm just glad Clavia havent decided to bring out a full software (vst) version of the G2!!! LOL

j

sebber · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject:

Don't you people ever get mad? It's July and I guess the next we'll hear is that they're on summer holidays, so more waiting until October. In November the rumors will say: hey, it'll be a christmas present, but that christmas present will likely to be an update for an organ or a stage piano or a wavetable. And then the next new instrument will show up, what ever it may be.
When I joined here I thought Kassen is a misogynic who can't get over his frustration and giving me bad feelings about Clavia. But now I feel like "I'm still standing" myself. (I start quoting Elton John, that could give you an idea what's happening to my mindset these days!)

And I thought this problem won't hit me, because I was happy with XP and thought I'll keep my old laptop when I buy a new one next year. Well, I had to buy a new one with Vista this year w/o having the option to keep an old one (well, I can keep it but why keep a trashed laptop?).

So, here I am with Vista and waiting for months for a driver. There are workarounds, yes, but they all require some work. But when I want to play music I want to turn the machine on and it should work immediately. I don't want to load Vista and turn VM on and then have a buggy editor. This is why I bought a hardware synthesizer, right, to not bother with software problems.

You guys know it, I made a whole website and what else for the G2 and the website gets quite a few hits every day since it's not only for the modular. I'm thinking about writing "don't buy" on the front page. But at the same time I'd feel like a frustrated kid, and therefore I ask: don't you ever get frustrated? Don't you ever get mad at Clavia fot not maintaining their promises? If they were bankrupt or something, but they're making good money these days, I guess and I hope, with some good instruments.

Well, I just bought an Evolver and find myself happily turning wheels, sitting in a corner with my headphones on and a glass of red wine nearby. Just like I did only four years ago with an instrument that cost 2000€. I don't turn it on too often because it makes me feel frustrated. Seems like you people have a waaay better karma - not being angry, not being frustrated, just taking things as they are.

I have to take lessons with Kofi.

cappy2112 · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject:

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cappy2112 · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject:

sebber · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:24 am Post subject:

Cappy2112, what are you trying to say?

1) When I buy a new laptop the criteria of it being compatible to a synthesizer is not the main thing. I won't even discuss this with you, because it really seems obvious. Some things like price, noise, GB, speed, RAM, connectors, mobility, screen do play a role. VERY strange argument.

2) Not everyone is even capable of getting VM to run. I know there's a lot of people in the computer business around here. I ain't.

3) But it just doesn't make sense to have a top notch and rightfully high prized product and having to sneak around in backtracks for just getting a sluggy editor.

4) Damn it, it's not MY job! I did try to get XP running, well, I got it running, I killed my whole system while doing so. I read numerous webpages to get VM working. This is f*ing not my job, it's Clavias! I'm a musician and my technical expertise is limited. I want something that works. Like the other very fine instruments of Clavia, that are made just like this: instruments for musicians that have perfect, dumbass proofed interfaces that you turn on and they work.
This is why I bought Clavia. And it's THEIR job to provide a stupid driver, not that of the users of their instruments that happened to show up with a Vista (or Intel Mac, fwiw) computer to sneak around and find their ways.

I don't want no unicorn, I want a fairy Very Happy

iPassenger · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:53 am Post subject:

hmm.. not sure that woudl work if you were running music software in vista and the editor in VM. Would that be workable? I use my editing software along side my DAW... That way the G2 is a true studio extension and modular available at any time during my workflow.. could u achieve this in Vista?

BTW i am still on XP.. no plans to change as yet.

Tim Kleinert · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:36 am Post subject:

cappy2112 · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:12 am Post subject:

cappy2112 · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:16 am Post subject:

sebber · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:03 am Post subject:

cappy, this is very kind of you. I have a dual boot and VM running, so I don't need your help. But it is indeed very kind.

I guess you're already over it and don't expect Clavia to come up with something. That's fine, that's actually an answer to my question.

I'm not already there. I think they have to. They are not bankrupt, au contraire, and then I want a native driver. They don't have another machine replacing the G2, I'd be very surprised, though I have a few ideas...) this is why I want a native driver. We're not talking Hartman, we're not talking Prodikeys.

Since I was forced to go with Vista, something I tried to skip but found I couldn't (for reasons that are just too boring to discuss here), I simply expect a driver since this _is_ the current platform and, again, it's simply not the customers job to find ways around.
The same thing goes for Mac.

I now work in Vista. When I boot in XP I'm not in my working area. When I work with VM it eats my RAM. So what?

Either the manufacturer abandons the whole thing or they write a new driver. What Clavia does is promise bun not deliver. Under these circumstances I really can't say to anyone to buy a G2 because they might end up in the same situation as I am and they will blame me for giving bad advice.

So, please, give me another reason why I shouldn't warn people (even on my website) to buy a G2? Because if somebody will ask in the future about my opinion the thing I have to say is: unusable in my circumstances.

I didn't do so as yet out of a supportive feeling for Clavia. But I wouldn't buy an expensive (though worthy) machine if it'd run only on Win2k. Neither on OSX on Motorola. Sure there's ways. Time and ressources consuming ways though.

I would've never guessed Clavia would do the same thing again. Kassen was right. People should know.

cappy2112 · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:24 am Post subject:

cappy2112 · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:59 am Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject:

... around mid/end February Clavia announced new drivers to be forthcoming and started a beta test round. One would think they could have been finished by now ... anyway, it surprises me a bit ... and it begins to look like there will be a beta forever, just as with the NM classic ... I've got no reason to be angry as I do have a beta for Vista and still have an XP laptop as well, but as said it surprises me.

cappy2112 · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject:

I am a praticipant of the beta version for Vista. I have a new hp laptop that runs Vista 64 SP1.

Part of the beta agreement with Clavia is not to release information about the testing, but I feel what I'm going to say now isn't going to violate that too much.

The beta USB driver does work on Vista 64 as does the editor, but it isn't seamless.

You can install the unsigned driver. Vista will tell you the install failed and to contact the supplier. Reboot the machine and hold down F8 when OS starts up. Select "Enable Unsigned Drivers" or something like that. (I don't remember the exact words). The machine will come up and the driver will work. Unfortunately, you must do this F8 thing every time you restart if you you want to use the G2. If your don't, the machine will start up and work, it just won't run the unsigned drivers.

I have been talking via email with someone at Clavia.