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Modular G2 Use As Notes And Automation?
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Sound Maniac



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Modular G2 Use As Notes And Automation?
Subject description: How to use notes and automations insteed of recording.
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I've been using modular g2 for while now, and i'm little bit tired of recording, would appreciate if someone could help to explain or make some printscreens or help in anyway.. i'm using a usb midi interface, and the audio cables correctly connected to my RME Fireface.., but would love to use automations and putting my own notes instead of recording.. ?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Modular G2 Use As Notes And Automation?
Subject description: How to use notes and automations insteed of recording.
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Moved the message to the general G2 section, as the patch section is meant for patches.

Sound Maniac wrote:
[...] but would love to use automations and putting my own notes instead of recording.. ?


I'm not sure what you mean here ... could you try to use some other words?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Modular G2 Use As Notes And Automation?
Subject description: How to use notes and automations insteed of recording.
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the synth works perfectly,but i want to put my own notes, like C5,4,6,7 etc and automate the knobs.. Also i dont want to work with recording. I mean is there not any other way of working with it without recording.. I dont remember what its called in cubase or any other sequencer but if i am right it is add-key-note..
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Are you refering to the Sequencer modules?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hmm i dont know how to explain haha, i wanna use it as software im tired of recording.. when u dont have hardware how do you make the melodies, u pute notes.. i want to automate the lfo in the sequencer so i dont have to record while im spinning the knob..
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So if I understand you well...
You want the synthesizer to sound all the time, playing notes, while you are tweaking the knobs?

I'll wait until receiving a positive answer, otherwise I'll write nonsense...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The best simple way to explain is that i dont wanna push any record button but use the g2 in the tracks.. how can i explain better :/
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Anything can be automated! You could use sequencer modules for generating both note and control data. There are too many easy solutions to your problem.

A great start would be to go through some g2 topics discussing 'generic patches' 'noodles' 'sequencers' etcetera, download some of the patches, play around with them until you find one that does what you like and go from there!

Study, assimilate, recreate.

There are so many wonderful discussions and patches in the archives, you can never stop learning by taking those apart.

Good luck, have fun!! Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

...you could trigger the g2 over midi and you can control the transport of your daw with the g2 over midi.

Or press 'record' and have your daw count off a few bars, so you have time to sit down behind your controller!

...orrrrrr, get a mate to press record for you! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i know how to work with it man Smile thats not the problem the only thing i want is only use it as we use software synthesizer no recording put notes.. and put in bars.. then push play button just like that Smile thats the only thing i need help with.. apreciate ure help PLUR

but if you just could help me to fix so i can use it with only notes and automations of each knob
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I believe your question is computer software sequencer related? How to create Midi notes without playing the keyboard and recording it?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You need a software sequencer program such as Ableton Live or Cakewalk Sonar. The G2 is not capable of storing automation on its own, so it needs help from a software application of this kind. (Yes, I know that it is possible to store such information in a sequencer module, but such storage is very limited)

Are you using such a program now? If so, what is it?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Im almost sure that that works in cubase for sure Smile but i think i know what the problem is now.. The Midi 1/2 is inactive in cubase dont know why.. I can see them and select them and it signal but no sound.. I have a CME Usb Midi Interface midi in and out cable and usb in one.. connected to the modular g2 and from modular g2 to usb port.. and audio cables is connected to Channel 3/4 In RME Fireface.. and ive opened them as OPEN/ON all time in the matrix.. I Got sound everywhere but wihtout cubase when put notes in key editor no sound but signal... Could it be something with the MIDI Remote that RME Fireface has`? or anything else
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

that was exactly my question Wout Blommers

but the question now is how to solve it? Very Happy And i want to thank all guys who is trying to help apreciate it alot! PLUR
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sound Maniac wrote:
I have a CME Usb Midi Interface midi in and out cable and usb in one.. connected to the modular g2 and from modular g2 to usb port.. and audio cables is connected to Channel 3/4 In RME Fireface.. and ive opened them as OPEN/ON all time in the matrix.. I Got sound everywhere but wihtout cubase when put notes in key editor no sound but signal... Could it be something with the MIDI Remote that RME Fireface has`? or anything else

You cannot use the G2 USB port for MIDI, which means that you *MUST* have a MIDI cable between your MIDI interface and the G2.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I got all cables man its all correclty connected or i wouldnt be able to use the G2 Editor.. Smile i know what you've been thinking but its not that problem..

Its those cables, http://www.synthtopia.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/usb-midi-cable.jpg

And

http://www.cable-trader.co.uk/images/USB%202.0%20type%20A%20to%20type%20B%203.0m.jpg
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sound Maniac wrote:
I got all cables man its all correclty connected or i wouldnt be able to use the G2 Editor.. Smile


Not true. All you need in order to use the editor is to have a USB cable connected. If you want to be able to send notes from your computer to the G2, you must have a MIDI cable connected between your computer's MIDI interface output and the "MIDI IN" connector on the G2. If you want to be able to send notes from your G2 keyboard to your computer, you need a second MIDI cable connected between your computer's MIDI interface input and the "MIDI OUT" connector on the G2.

That's three separate cables, each with a separate purpose.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The cables is in pics in the message over Smile check out and i hope idont miss something.. And ofcourse the audio cables obviously wich i have forgot to post link about but not so neseceary anymore to post about
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If all the cables you describe are connected properly, then you should be able to send MIDI from your computer to the G2. In addition, you need a way to get the audio signal from the G2 back to your computer. That would take the form of two cables from the OUT1 (MONO) and OUT2 connectors to corresponding input ports on your audio interface.

You have those?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah i got the audio cables theres connected too i just forgot to post link about them..
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i got sound everywhere, its only cubase when putting the notes no sound but signal..
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So what you are saying is that you are sending MIDI notes from Cubase to the G2 but no sound is coming out?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah exactly but is signal only but no sound
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sound Maniac wrote:
yeah exactly but is signal only but no sound


What do you mean "signal only"? That is, what is the difference between signal and sound?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i have signal in the parameter/peakmeter or whatever to call it.. But dont hear the sound..
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