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Looking at making a Chatterbox, a few questions
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:40 pm    Post subject: Looking at making a Chatterbox, a few questions Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi everyone,
I'm looking at making a Chatterbox, which would be my first DIY synth. I'm just wondering what supply voltage is required, and if the schematic on Yves' website is complete.
http://yusynth.net/archives/WirelessWorld/Chatterbox-1976.pdf

Thank you!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Looking at making a Chatterbox, a few questions Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

oh, that looks fun,. I'll put it on my todo list Laughing
as for the supply voltage:
yusynth wrote:
ickystay wrote:
About powering the Chatterbox-1976.pdf, the article says "Two PP3 batteries provide an internal power supply". Anyone know if it means go with 18vdc, or is it +/-9vdc?


It is +/-9V dc, the mid-point correspond to ground, note that the CMOS chips (CD40xx) are also powered between +9V(Vdd) and -9V (Vss) which correspond to the maximum 18V voltage they can handle.

from this thread.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the response! Looks like I should look into making a power supply first.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it would be cool to have such a device, if you design a pcb, would you be so kind to share it?

best regards!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks! I've only made a few small PCB layouts and never actually made one, but if I get to that point I'll post it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think it could use some upgrading.
Replacing the 8 uA741's with 2 LM324's and the LM380 with a LM386.
The 2.5nF capacitor could be difficult to obtain so on a PCB it might be a good idea to add room for 2 capacitors (1.5nF + 1nF).

I noticed a small mistake in the schematic; the CD4002 in the noise generator section is drawn as a 4 input XNOR (which wouldn't work) but it's
of course a 4 input NOR (used as an inverter). The other half of the CD4002 is used as a 4 input NOR but followed by an XOR used as an inverter,
so it's just a 4 input OR. Instead of using those 2 gates you could use 4 diodes and a resistor to create a 4 input OR.
Then you can use the CD4070 gate as in inverter in the noise generator section instead of the CD4002 gate, eliminating the CD4002 altogether. Cool

I want to redraw the noise generator section to see if it's possible to make the LFSR with another chip since the CD4006 seems to be harder to obtain
too (I still have a couple though). With the extra XOR available it might also be possible to extend it (make it more noisey).

And of course there is the option of making it voltage controlled by using OTA's for the filter section, but that would change the whole circuit dramatically.

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