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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:42 am    Post subject: PdVST Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I was looking for a way to embed either Keykit or Pd as a VST...just to avoid the overhead of running MIDI Yoke in the background. Looks like someone's been here already! Idea

http://crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/

(I still like some of the widgets that Keykit has, so it'd be nice to embed it as a VST as well, if only I were a programmer...)
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Beautifull.
Thanks.

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: PdVST Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

jksuperstar wrote:
I was looking for a way to embed either Keykit or Pd as a VST... http://crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/

I'm not aware of anyone working on such a thing for keykit. Would you want keykit's MIDI output to be sent back to the VST hosting environment? I know that a VSTi can accept MIDI input (obviously), but I'm not sure whether VSTi's can *output* MIDI.

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

as of VST 2.0, it supports both MIDI in & out. I don't have a lot of experience with this, and don't know whether or not the VST time stamps are carried with MIDI for sample-accurate timing. Would this be similar to the way OSC works?

I noticed you added OSC to keykit, I'm eager to play with this as I get more networked Smile Smile

But yes, I would like to use keykit's output within my VST host...it puts everything into 1 system that, in theory, could be recalled in it's entirety.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

jksuperstar wrote:
as of VST 2.0, it supports both MIDI in & out.

Thanks, could be interesting. What kind of things could you do with a VST plugin that aren't possible using MIDI Yoke?

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think mainly what jk already pointed out: total recall from within a single environment.

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tjt wrote:
jksuperstar wrote:
as of VST 2.0, it supports both MIDI in & out.

Thanks, could be interesting. What kind of things could you do with a VST plugin that aren't possible using MIDI Yoke?

...Tim...


Take advantage of the audio routing facilities of your host? I don´t think PD supports rewire so quite a bit of trickery would be needed otherwise.

I think this is a exciting development, I was thinking that I´d need to purchase MAX/MSP because PD was so much harder to intergrate into Live, this one may save me quite a few bucks.

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kassen wrote:
tjt wrote:
jksuperstar wrote:
as of VST 2.0, it supports both MIDI in & out.

Thanks, could be interesting. What kind of things could you do with a VST plugin that aren't possible using MIDI Yoke?

...Tim...


Take advantage of the audio routing facilities of your host? I don´t think PD supports rewire so quite a bit of trickery would be needed otherwise.

Keykit only does MIDI. Doesn't sound like it'd be worth the effort to produce a keykit VST plugin.

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tjt wrote:

Keykit only does MIDI. Doesn't sound like it'd be worth the effort to produce a keykit VST plugin.


No, not in that case, I was refering to PD. For keyit the only advantage would be convenience.

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