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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I kinda agree with Chris about the pre 1840s stuff. And no Haydn. Of the old stuff I am generally more in favour of .. like Pergolesi. You know.


On the other hand, some of Little K´s recordings of Bruckner on DG are quite decent. The sound is a bit sketchy but the performances are generally quite good.

Anders Brunsvik´s´recordings of the piano music by Antonio Bibalo are solid stuff. Bibalo is underrated.

The string quartets by Knut Nystedt on Simax ( SIMAX PSC1114 )
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Luciano Berio has written a lot of very enjoyable music.
"Coro pentru voci si instrumente" from 1976 is very good. A magnificent work. I have the recording by Cologne Radio Symphony Orchestra - conducted by Berio himself. This is solid stuff.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Fartein Valen! Seriously hot stuff.

I can recommend "The Eternal" . Rune Grammofon - RCD 2013

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fartein Valen

Antonio Bibalo

Luciano Berio

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Did I suggest looking into the polytonality of Darius Milhaud? This is always a smart move.

An amusing piece of trivia is that among Milhaud´s students you will find guys like Morton Subotnick and Burt Bacharach.. uh.. and Steve Reich. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Did I suggest looking into the polytonality of Darius Milhaud? This is always a smart move.

An amusing piece of trivia is that among Milhaud´s students you will find guys like Morton Subotnick and Burt Bacharach.. uh.. and Steve Reich. Laughing


So.... a polytonal composer taught Burt 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head' Bacharach?! Confused

Was Bacharach in Slytherin by any chance?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This is nonsencial trivia. Just ask Howard about his grand time with Riley.
It doens´t mean anything that Burt studied with Milhaud.. or does it.. hard to say. Burt is a magnificent composer anyway.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ah okay.... he's only known to me as some kind of easy listening adonis. So pretty much as far away from polytonal wibbliness as it's possible to get. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, the BB guy is a very talented composer and his piano music is pretty difficult to play well. So it might be easy listening but I think his music is excellent.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
Well, the BB guy is a very talented composer and his piano music is pretty difficult to play well. So it might be easy listening but I think his music is excellent.


I like Bacharach. My parents had a few albums when I was growing up, and now the Mrs and I have a compilation of his best stuff that is pulled out on Sunday mornings sometimes.
Any guy that can make the flugelhorn hip has to be cool in my book.

Burt may be easy listening, but those harmonies are sophisticated stuff, sort of like Wagner without being Teutonic, or Debussy writing pop songs.

As I get older, I apprecite easy listening more and more. Years ago it was all Ligeti, Schoenberg, Webern Penderecki etc, but nowadays I am far happier with a bit of Vaughn Williams, Delius or Debussy.

Or maybe I am just soft Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

orczy wrote:

...Any guy that can make the flugelhorn hip has to be cool in my book...As I get older, I apprecite easy listening more and more.

the flugelhorn is always hip in my book Very Happy and maybe you had your share of dissonant music during your youth. For me it was all Cecil Taylor, Sun Ra and all the free jazz scene of the 60's that nowadays I can barely stand for a few ms Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dovdimus Prime wrote:
So pretty much as far away from polytonal wibbliness as it's possible to get. Wink


Ahh.. not quite true. Chris has already pointed out that his harmonies are something else. There is a lot of brilliant weirdness going on in much of his best 60s stuff. Bacharach isn´t polytonal in quite the most hardcore Milhaud way, but he is definitively working those harmonies in a special way.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Did I suggest looking into the polytonality of Darius Milhaud? This is always a smart move.

An amusing piece of trivia is that among Milhaud´s students you will find guys like Morton Subotnick and Burt Bacharach.. uh.. and Steve Reich. Laughing


I was Milhaud's last student. I showed up to study with him at Mills College, took one lesson from him and he promptly died. Shocked Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I was Milhaud's last student. I showed up to study with him at Mills College, took one lesson from him and he promptly died. Shocked Crying or Very sad

it must have been terrible to feel guilty for his death Twisted Evil

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I was Milhaud's last student. I showed up to study with him at Mills College, took one lesson from him and he promptly died. Shocked


Shocked

Did he say anything that made sense while you were there?

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Did he say anything that made sense while you were there?

Unfortunately, he was pretty far gone when I got there. I played a piece of music for him and told him it was dedicated to the whales. He kept asking "what?". I kept saying, "this music is dedicated to the whales." Finally his wife said, "dedicated to the whales." and he said, "Oh yes, the whales."

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