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Stream Operator

Joined: Oct 13, 2007 Posts: 6221 Location: near Austin, Tx, USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:02 am Post subject:
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Since the topic of algorithmic composition and computer generated music keeps popping up from time to time, and folks appear to be pleased with their own efforts in this category, I thought it would be fun to have a contest, with a prize and everything.
I happen to be a chainmaille hobbyist - note that is not chain mail, but chainmaille - the art of creating objects out of middle ages armor techniques. You know, metal rings painstakingly woven together. I also happen to be the guy who figured out how to make spheres out of chainmaille - well, a particular type of sphere that is hollow, rigid-shell, and made of only one ring size. So I thought I would offer one of my hard-earned spheres as a prize to make things interesting. You can read more about my spheres on my site, http://www.freedomodds.com/chainmaille/, and you can see the image of a pile of spheres below.
But enough about prizes, on to the contest! Here are the rules:
1. To enter you must post a computer-generated music piece of your own creation (or a link to one).
2. Entries may contain non-computer generated audio as long as the main focus of the sound is on the computer generated part.
3. All competitors are judges, each getting one vote to cast for their favorite entry.
4. Competitors may not vote for themselves.
5. If the winner chooses not to give out a snail mail address, I suppose it will go to second place and then on down the line.
I will post my entry soon. Good luck to all, and may the spheres be with you!
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Stream Operator

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Antimon
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Stream Operator

Joined: Oct 13, 2007 Posts: 6221 Location: near Austin, Tx, USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:24 am Post subject:
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Stefan, your entry made me feel like I was on a fantasia planet watching little water creatures chirp at each other playfully. What a nicely uplifting piece - not my usual in-yer-face rock-n-roll, so a refreshing change. _________________ "Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz |
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Octahedra

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Blue Hell
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MitraSpec

Joined: Dec 14, 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject:
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I'm a new member. I've been to an EM festival when it came to Philadelphia a few years back, though this is the first online music community I've engaged in, (ignoring myspace, etc., which are primarily marketing outlets.)
My laptop was stolen recently, which was quite a loss. I'd already been on the ropes as far as pursuing music, and I found my interest slipping.
Then a few days ago I opened up Reason (3.0) on my Desktop, the only real music program on here, and went playing. Suddenly, I found this song erupting in front of me, and it was completed by morning; the composition process was life changing.
Unfortunately, everyone's subjective perspectives rob any given song of it's maximum potential for experiential glory, but I'm interested in how mine will be received by people of a more relative perspective to my own.
...And I like relics, and those mesh spheres are dandy, so why not start here.
I look forward to meeting everybody!
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Blue Hell
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject:
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MitraSpec wrote: | I'm a new member. |
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also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Stream Operator

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject:
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MitraSpec, welcome and nice tune! Now I'm really glad to make this silly contest thingie, to welcome in a new member! Cheers! _________________ "Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz |
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MitraSpec

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject:
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This should be fun; I'm sure I'll learn a ton here.
Oh, and good songs so far; I'll be sure to give each one lots of consideration. _________________ the smell of my blanket as I go to sleep - the sights and sounds, and the body the feels |
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dewdrop_world

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kara

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Octahedra

Joined: Nov 29, 2008 Posts: 149 Location: Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:18 am Post subject:
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Per wrote: | Using a drum machine as backup and a cheap Roland sound module may be out of the rules. |
Um, I don't think that would be a problem. That would disqualify my entry too, and maybe some others. I got the impression that the rules were something like this (please correct me if I got the wrong idea anywhere)...
A fair proportion of the notes (think of it as the musical score, even though a lot of these pieces have been generated in realtime without the individual midi note events being permanently recorded) should be generated according to a set of rules. This can include random numbers if you like that sort of thing, and I think some people may have also tweaked parameters by ear while the algorithm is running. Also it shouldn't matter whether the rules are coded into a computer or a programmable synth, or worked out with pen & paper.
The sound sources are a separate thing. I used hardware synths, electric violin and a pair of cymbals, but anything is game. Years ago in my first serious go at algorithmic composing I included a washing machine as a sound effect.
That's my interpretation anyway - hope that's near enough to what Inventor was thinking...
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Stream Operator

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:39 am Post subject:
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Sounds about right, Octahedra. I just threw together a quick set of rules to give the contest some focus, but we can take this wherever we want to take it. All of the entries so far qualify as far as I'm concerned.
You know, I didn't realize the international nature of electro-music.com, being such an ethno-centric American. I hope it doesn't cost too much to ship a small sphere internationally. The spheres are small and light so it should be a minimal shipping charge. Or so I hope!
Tell you what, if it's expensive then I'll substitute a finger ring or a bracelet, those can go in a padded envelope which might be cheaper.
I didn't set an end date for the contest, so I guess we'll just keep it open as long as people are actively making submissions. When it slows down we can stop the contest and vote for a winner. Thanks to everyone who's entered so far, this is fun and interesting. _________________ "Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz |
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Per
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:58 am Post subject:
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It is OK, for us people living on the other side of the earth, the honour is enough.
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Stream Operator

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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject:
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Well, there haven't been any entries in half a week now, but I won't be able to mail out the prize until the 21st of January, so we have a little time for last minute entries... anyone with a last minute entry this is your chance! _________________ "Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz |
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:31 am Post subject:
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Octahedra wrote: |
There are two versions - the atonal Polar Transform (for Ligeti / Scelsi / Grisey fans only )
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I'd like to listen to it. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:55 am Post subject:
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Oh, thanks for tickling the thread, gsanchez, it had gone inactive. I guess it's time to vote! I need to review all the contestants first, then I will vote. In the mean time, let's all vote. I will be able to mail out the prize on the 21st of this month so no hurry, but let's vote! _________________ "Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz |
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:17 am Post subject:
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what happens if Inventor wins? |
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Blue Hell
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:21 am Post subject:
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 _________________ Jan
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:28 am Post subject:
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gsanchez wrote: | what happens if Inventor wins? |
I guess i mail myself a sphere! _________________ "Let's make noise for peace." - Kijjaz |
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Octahedra

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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:04 pm Post subject:
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You are now officially disqualified for posting two pieces. just kidding
I liked the "atonal" version more than the original. I like the consecutive minor second intervals forming the clusters, gives it a nice cacophonic sense.
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