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loss1234
Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:42 am Post subject:
XR VCO with +/- 9 Volt batteries? no matched pairs?? |
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Hey
i've got a xr2206 burning a hole in my part pile and id love to try the xrvco but dont have all the right parts. first i dont have the right kind of bipolar power supply so i was wondering if i could use the 2 9volt batteries trick?
also if i use a few different resistor or cap values and non matches transistors will it still make sound? i dont expect it to be perfect or pretty but i want to get it hooked up to my new little cv sequencer i built. and the 555 oscillator is driving me nuts.
thanks for all help. |
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Tim Servo
Joined: Jul 16, 2006 Posts: 924 Location: Silicon Valley
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject:
Re: XR VCO with +/- 9 Volt batteries? no matched pairs?? |
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loss1234 wrote: | Hey
i've got a xr2206 burning a hole in my part pile and id love to try the xrvco but dont have all the right parts. first i dont have the right kind of bipolar power supply so i was wondering if i could use the 2 9volt batteries trick?
also if i use a few different resistor or cap values and non matches transistors will it still make sound? i dont expect it to be perfect or pretty but i want to get it hooked up to my new little cv sequencer i built. and the 555 oscillator is driving me nuts.
thanks for all help. |
Hey 1234,
What you'll get if you don't use a matched pair for the expo converter is a VCO that doesn't track quite as well and more importantly, will change frequency with temperature. Now, if you've got the circuit sealed up in a box, that'll help make it a little more stable. Also, you'll actually get pretty good results just grabbing a pair of transistors like a 2N3904. Modern manufacturing techniques are so good that the differences from one tranny to the next are fairly small. This is especially true if you can get a pair of transistors made in the same batch (if you can buy several joined together on a paper tape, that's a pretty good start).
When it's all said and done, if you're driving the VCO with a sequencer, then you should be able to get away with it (since you can individually tune each note from the sequencer). You'll probably get more problems if you put together two or three VCOs and tried to keep them in tune, but a single VCO running off a sequencer... go ahead and have some fun.
Tim (driving the Spell Checker crazy with synth terms) Servo |
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fonik
Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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loss1234
Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject:
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thanks alot
yeah this isnt for a real serious application, just want a vco with more power than a 555 square wave can provide.
when i build it for real i will get a matched pair for sure.
thanks
so the 9volts wont be a problem?? |
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State Machine
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Joined: Apr 17, 2006 Posts: 2809 Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:51 am Post subject:
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Quote: | maybe you will find this circuit handy for matching transistors yourself (i can't remember where i once got it from, so if anyone knows, i would be happy to replace the upload by a link): |
Good advice Fonik. I would use transistors in TO-92 packages for the following reason. I would recommend mounting the matched transistors with the flat sides facing each other and sandwiching some thermal adhesive between the two to equalize the temperature in each device.
Bill |
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fabreeze
Joined: Mar 13, 2006 Posts: 9 Location: Olympia, WA
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:09 am Post subject:
Matched Transistors Subject description: Minimoog Service Manual |
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Fonik,
I think that schematic for matching transistors comes from the MiniMoog Service Manual. |
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