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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:43 am    Post subject: Help with pads Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There really doesn't seem to be much in the way of help on the net when it comes to making pads. I'm looking to make those swirly dream like one's but I'm having problems as so far all I'm getting is a sound that's just say, a saw with amp env attack/decay/release and reverb.

Any suggestions, I'm using Reason 3.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

anyone?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

All I can think of is to have a look at http://electro-music.com/forum/forum-58.html with the free Clavia G2 demo software . Probably not all patches will work on the demo though, as the demo is a limited version of the real G2 hardware. Still maybe it would give some ideas.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Normally, I would just find a VSTi synth and tweak a preset for that kind of sound. But, to start from scratch, I would add a phaser effect to what you already have, and also a slow-LFOed bandpass Auto-Filter. Try adding a second waveform (perhaps another saw at the same pitch, but slightly detuned). That will make the pad bigger sounding and will give it a chorus/phaser effect as well. I'm big on the auto-filters right now, if you ask me.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's a pretty open question. My basic pad would include 2 or three oscillators. One would be 32' (or 16' if you don't have 32') and a sine. The other two would be a saw and/or pulse. Choose what octave sounds best. You could also detune one and/or the other to make a chord or a dissonant note. Mix volume of the sine accordingly. You don't necessarily want too much bass to overpower your overall sound. The amplifier's envelope should have a medium to long attack, a very long decay, minimal sustain, and a long release. To give the pad some motion and texture you could modulate one or more wave forms in osc. 2 or 3. As far as a filter envelope; that would be up to you. This is just a starting point.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mohoyoho wrote:
One would be 32' (or 16' if you don't have 32')


Could you explain what you mean by that? (Maybe an imperial thing!?)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Alexander wrote:
Mohoyoho wrote:
One would be 32' (or 16' if you don't have 32')


Could you explain what you mean by that? (Maybe an imperial thing!?)


Yeah...you're gonna need 32-foot lengths of rebar to get that pad going. I figure, with parts and labor, including the 700 tons of cement, that should cost you about $40,000.23. Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

32' is the octave; a very low one. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that nomenclature comes from pipe organs. The longer the pipe the lower the tone. However, I could be wrong about that. Anyway octaves (like in a Moog Voyager) come low to high like this: 32', 16', 8', 4', 2'.

Some synths use -2. 1, 0, +1, +2.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mohoyoho wrote:
I believe that nomenclature comes from pipe organs.


Yep.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And from pipe organs to Hammond B3s Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

As always, you guys rule! Thanks..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I remember when the G2 came out, one guy was raving about how he now would be able to make those patches with a gazillion detuned saw oscillators that he always wanted to have. Stuff that like that maybe could be used for pads. Attaching a crude example of what I mean, to be run in the g2 demo software mentioned by Jan above.

/Stefan


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