Synthesized Piano (& Symphony Orch)

3phase · Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject:

i know some people that have the aturia software..its indeed a sweet modular synth... i was thinking about getting it allready...
I would appreciate to see how your piano sound is done..there is defenetly something to leran about...not that i am too much in natural sound...but the quality of real piano sounds has something... Its still the best sound for composing, and still a domain for samplers...
its cool to synthezise that.

dasz · Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject:

Ah, well for a while today, my musical sanity was hanging on by 3 slim cables which my friend soldered to the end of the headphone connector. It sounded great!

Now we are putting on the outer layers. Phew!
/Dasz

elhardt · Joined: May 14, 2005 Posts: 73 Location: USA

MOSC, thanks for setting up an Arturia section. Since there are no posts there yet I should post a bunch of MMV audio demos plus a massive MMV bug list to prevent people from buying the damn synth until Arturia fixes the damn thing.

I put the MMV acoustic piano patch in the G2 patches piano section for now.

-Elhardt

3phase · Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject:

would be cool to do a conversion if possible.
The aturia is tuned to sound like an anlog modular... it would probabbly sound pretty different in a straight g2 conversion... but it should be intersting anyway...

ian-s · Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject:

Thanks Ken, and it loads in the Demo version so I have some patching to do.

ian-s · Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject:

I should probably go back to the MMV patch and look for things I missed, but this is the basic idea.

I tried patching a 1/2 Octave EQ but it didn't work very well. So EQ is approximated.

Comes in at under 25% so you can get 32 voices on an expanded G2 if you use an external reverb.

kenPiano.pch2

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1st try fixed formant sync piano

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X-Electric · Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:47 am Post subject:

ian-s · Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:55 am Post subject:

elhardt · Joined: May 14, 2005 Posts: 73 Location: USA

This is to add to the whole synthesizing acoustic pianos thread that was started a while back. For completeness I might as well post another synthesized acoustic piano MP3 of possible interest.

This acoustic piano was synthesized using a Multimoog mono synth and a $90 Behringer Virtualizer Pro digital multi-effects unit. Each synthesized note was sampled into an Emu E4K sampler so it could be played polyphonically in real-time. It's a bit hard to play for several reasons: I didn't add any envelopes to the sound, so when I lift off the keys the sound comes to an artificial and sudden stop, so I tried to cover that flaw with sustain pedal phrasing. The notes are kind of short in sustain because I was worried about running out of sampler memory. I only got about a 3 octave sample range out of the thing, so the lower notes are just the lowest multi-sample slowed down. It's a bit out of tune in places. None-the-less, it has an acoustic piano sound, unlike all the failed attempts I've heard from things like Tassman, String Studio, and others. Since I can hear good potential in this method, I'll try to patch up the technique in Reaktor where I have more control and don't need to sample and see if I can refine it into a very realistic and playable sound.

Note that in the demo below, you hear 3 short musical snippets. Since the Emu has the ability to tranpose/(slow down or speed up) the samples under the keys, I used 3 different shift values for different piano tones, going from a smaller brighter piano sound (the original sampled pitches) to the last one at -12 semitones, for a bigger, darker piano tone.

http://home.att.net/~elhardt3/Multimoog_Virtualizer_Piano.mp3