The End of Common Practice

Jason · Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject:

I dont see any guns to any peoples head to be forced to use any scale.
If people dont like something then they can choose not to use it if they are smart and actually have a brain that functions.
Its not like there arent other scales available.
This is pretty silly.

kkissinger makes some great points.

This whole "The End of Common Practice"
thing to me seems like a big advocation for staying narrowminded. Idea

Oh right lets all be slaves to our scales? No thanks...

seraph · Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:07 am Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:20 am Post subject:

sebber · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:38 am Post subject:

This filtering process is not a pure, objective filtering, no doubt. There's an aspect of fashion in who we play today. And before 1840 nobody played "old" music anyway, and 2006 other music is played than 1960. What's more important: it's played differently, that's where, in notated music, the interpretation comes in.
I think the constant reinterpretation of the same piece by different musicians is what makes good music immortal. The interpreters choose what they want to play (the filtering process) and the interpretations change over time and "keep track" with today in a subtle manner.
I admit, if that's true it's bad news for anyone, whose music can only survive on a tape.
I'm really excited if we will still listen to the Beatles in 50 years (though I should care a little bit better for myself to be there then). I almost doubt that we'll listen to, say, a Christian Vogel live set that I know have on my ipod. I'm dead though sure I'll listen to Beethoven.

ian-s · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:48 am Post subject:

sebber · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:33 am Post subject:

http://www.play.fm/ has a lot of interesting sets. You've got to register to listen to them, but that was hassle-free and they only sent me an email once.

Jason · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:41 am Post subject:

I am not saying you guys are narrowminded.
Sorry if I offended anybody...
Crying or Very sad

that wasnt my intention

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seraph · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:31 am Post subject:

Jason · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:44 am Post subject:

Thanks Seraph Very Happy

Now I don't feel so bad Cool

It is for sure an interesting topic and good to get us thinking

sebber · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject:

I could have felt offended? Darn, I missed an opportunity Laughing

I feel fine, too.

Jason · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject:

Right on folks Cool

I have been wanting to experiment with eastern scales mainly Indian for years now. I even have a sitar , I just need to learn.
Maybe this will give me some motivtion to go learning more and grow!
The G# harmonic thing is just not enough.

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:02 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:10 am Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:13 am Post subject:

sebber · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:41 am Post subject:

There's a terribly bad filter installed in commercial radio stations that's called "Best of the 70s, 80's and 90's and the best of today"-filter. One of the worst filters ever implemented, but obviously so cheap no radio station can ignore it.
I think the filtering process is still there and working for the masses, as it's always been, because they choose to only go to concerts, where a filter process already applied (a record company contract, heavy rotation, mass media hype) because they don't want to "waste their time" going in bad concerts. Secondly: too much music is composed/produced today. No one can possibly listen to everything that's on the net. I think the biggest filter is still the record companys, because I know of no band that made their way through the internet to the charts.
When I ask friends: what good book did you read lately he'll apply a filter in his answer. Although you're right with what you say about the bourgeois music culture I don't think that's the only way of selection.

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:53 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:09 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:24 am Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:58 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:05 am Post subject:

Yeah... now you are getting it! Laughing

seraph · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: