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Roland Supersaw
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hoshigoshi



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Roland Supersaw Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello,

here`s a patch that i recently used in some recordings for clients...it`s just a structure for emulating the infamous Roland "Supersaw"-oscillator, as seen in JP-8000 and up. Nice for creating those typical commercial rave- and tranceleads, also phat pads. very "plastic" sounding...

[Note Blue Hell: the original patch got lost in the great crash, Jim was kind enough to beam us a copy he had - I put it in here]


supersaw_v11.pch2
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supersaw in some variations. wave your hands in the air! ;-)

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ian-s



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Excellent!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i second that comment. Smile

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darwen



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I love the variations 2 and 5 by i don't understand how you make this sound , we don't see the tuning and i don't understand the module "dirt osc" , "dirt mod" and the modules under oscillators section , can i have explication ,please. Smile
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hoshigoshi



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

darwen wrote:
I love the variations 2 and 5 by i don't understand how you make this sound , we don't see the tuning and i don't understand the module "dirt osc" , "dirt mod" and the modules under oscillators section ,can i have explication ,please. Smile


Hello Darwen, thanks for the comment.

well, the original roland supersaw is made of 7 saw-waveforms, which are getting detuned/spreaded over the tuning range. every saw at another detuning amount...to imitate that, i did the following:

the detuning of the 6 SAW-Oscillators is done with the second Morph Group. When you click on the morphgroup in the editor, you can see the morph destinations and it get`s clearer what happens.

the modules under the OSC Section are for wider detuning of two out of six oscillators. the default finetune range of the G2 oszillators is -50 to +50 cents, which is not enough if you want to imitate the supersaw. so these modules are a workaround to detune the sound even more. there is a converter module, which i`ve used to invert the modulation of the second oscillator (OScD4) in this section and so it`s detuned with negative amount. the other oscillator (OscD7) get`s the same detuning amount, but not inverted...this way you can detune or spread the tuning of the oscs with just one turn of the morph-knop (detune).

the Dirt Osc Section is for taking away a too clean sound, especially for leadsounds. i`ve renamed the modules, this section is made up from a saw osc (Dirt Osc) and an lfo (dirt mod), that modulates this saw. if you mix the OSC Dirt to the Signal, it gives a slightly distorted and Lo-Fi character.

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hoshi
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darwen



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for your explications and take time to answered.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This is a very decent recreation of that supersaw lead sound, even retaining the Roland style glossy programming of the delay and reverb.
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oxylog2000



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hey man.
thanx for this excellent patch !!
i like it !
bye
dirk
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blisargon demogorgon



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

anyone can upload it again?

thanks
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W.T.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the supersaw is gone Sad i can not seem download it.
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W.T.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

well, never mind....
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jima



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I can't replace the original (only the OP can do that) but here it is from my archive.

Jim


supersaw_v11_140.pch2
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for posting it Jim, I've updated the original post with it.
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DNME



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shocked really love this patch!!

Only wish there was a pitch env so you could make those nasty pitching Twisted Evil sounds! Want to add one, but don't know how (yet) Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

this patch is pretty nice and full sounding, with pretty much voices to play. Still discovering the limits a bit since i bought it a couple days ago. I have no problems with the modules so far.

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Only wish there was a pitch env so you could make those nasty pitching sounds! Want to add one, but don't know how (yet)


Its nice to mix event signals in a mixer. its not only for audio! That way you can easily mix an envelope with an lfo signal. Cable em up and send to the osc pitch..
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