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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:38 pm Post subject:
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a new quasi-symphonic piece uploaded today.
it's called Nemo Variations
it started as an improvised monophonic line that I captured on my sequencer while I was playing it. That line (no adjustments, quantizations etc.) became the theme (stated at the beginning of the piece) and also the only material used for all subsequent permutations.
Listen to Nemo Variations _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
Quote: | Don't die with your music still in you - Wayne Dyer |
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:59 pm Post subject:
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Bravo!!!
I like this one. I would love to hear a real symphony orchestra, or even a chamber orchestra, play this... |
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elektro80
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject:
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It is incredible. I love this one! _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject:
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Yup.. this one is great! _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject:
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better than great _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 5:26 am Post subject:
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I am glad you guys like it. I have to admit I like it too (or as Bachus would say "I feel minimal unhappiness about it")
I knew Howard would like it and I am getting used to Stein's multiple posts to express his feelings.  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
Quote: | Don't die with your music still in you - Wayne Dyer |
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:08 am Post subject:
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Very beautiful, very coherent, meticulous execution. Most excellent, Carlo! _________________ The question is not whether they can talk or reason, but whether they can suffer. -- Jeremy Bentham |
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:33 am Post subject:
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mosc wrote: | Bravo!!! ...
I like this one. I would love to hear a real symphony orchestra, or even a chamber orchestra, play this... |
While that would be interesting I don’t see that there would be much aesthetic virtue in the undertaking. A strong point of the piece is its coherence, which it has at both the thematic/structural level and aurally. It’s not clear to me that live performers could achieve that level of aural coherence and be true to the piece—for example the strings using harmonics at the end--not sure how else that could be achieved. I think the piece would have to be rewritten somewhat for that to work. I could raise similar problems elsewhere.
And I guess it bothers me a little to hear people say things that suggest that quasi acoustic "electro music" would be really good on “real” instruments. Partly the piece is good because it is true to its “electro music” instrumentation. _________________ The question is not whether they can talk or reason, but whether they can suffer. -- Jeremy Bentham |
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:16 am Post subject:
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I think this music would translate very well to an orchestra and there is something fantastic about hearing a live orchestra play beautiful music in a hall filled with other music lovers that are moved and touched by the music. Much of the electro-music we write is beyond the scope and technology of conventional orchestras, so our audience usually listens to it alone on their audio system. This is cool, but there is a definite drawback to this compared to the shared experience of listening to live music. That's one reason I like live electronic music. To me, music is a social art form. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:37 am Post subject:
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mosc wrote: | To me, music is a social art form. |
Well, you're probably right, but as you know I am not a very social person which undoubtedly colors my view. _________________ The question is not whether they can talk or reason, but whether they can suffer. -- Jeremy Bentham |
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 1:41 pm Post subject:
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bachus wrote: | Very beautiful, very coherent, meticulous execution. Most excellent, Carlo! |
thank you the coefficient of unhappiness relative to this piece is quite low
mosc wrote: | I think this music would translate very well to an orchestra |
this piece, with all the due respect, reminds me of the atmosphere of Henryk Gorecki's Third Symphony, Op 36 ("Symphony of Sorrowful Songs") that I first heard as part of the soundtrack of Peter Weir's Fearless
My ego would certainly be gratified if someone asked me to write an orchestral version of this piece but I agree with
bachus wrote: | I don’t see that there would be much aesthetic virtue in the undertaking |
on the other hand I agree also with
mosc wrote: | music is a social art form |
I would only add that music is not only that, it's also a very personal experience that you can enjoy in the solitude of yourself and your headphones. _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:14 pm Post subject:
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Yes, all is true, but I'm sure you'd love to be in an auditorium where a packed hall is cheering the performance of your music. I'd love to be there too, cheering with them. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:52 pm Post subject:
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mosc wrote: | Yes, all is true, but I'm sure you'd love to be in an auditorium where a packed hall is cheering the performance of your music. I'd love to be there too, cheering with them. |
thanks you are right, I 'd be glad to listen to a live performance of my music either played on acoustic instruments or on synthesizers  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:09 am Post subject:
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There's got to be a bit of a difference between scoring an all-time high socore for a video game on you home computer and winning the 100 Meter run in the Olympics. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:49 am Post subject:
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This is absolutely lovely! Oh yes, this will put a smile on the face of the good captain,
As for the discussion - would this translate to a concert setting? I believe it would! The composition is so strong that I'm sure it would survive the transition into an electro-acoustic rendition very well, maybe even benefit from it.. In my mind's ear I hear this played in the Nidaros Cathedral (Trondheim, where electro80 and myself live). Every year in late July and early August there's the Saint Olaf Festival, a mixed cultural and religious festival/convention. Lots of lovely concerts covering the whole gamut of musical expression from renaissance music to jazz to mainstream pop to ethnic to experimental, and Nidaros (old Norwegian for Trondheim) being a former catholic cathedral, and also one of the most important desinations for pilgrims in European catholicism there're always quite a few concerts by Italian artists, both jazz, folkloric and classical. I think you would be a hit. so GIVE IT A TRY! You KNOW you get at least three paying punters, Stein Anna Irene and mice elf. What say you, Stein?  _________________ Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:34 pm Post subject:
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Aye, carlo gotta do this one live with an orchestra in Trondheim next year. The Pope sez so! _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:35 pm Post subject:
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Oskar wrote: | This is absolutely lovely! Oh yes, this will put a smile on the face of the good captain |
thanks again, guys
Oskar wrote: | I think you would be a hit. so GIVE IT A TRY! You KNOW you get at least three paying punters, Stein Anna Irene and mice elf. What say you, Stein?  |
Nidaros...what a lovely name. "GIVE IT A TRY!" what do you mean
btw I love the "mice elf"  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:16 pm Post subject:
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one more:
Shrek in Nidaros
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:18 pm Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: | Some catholic stuff from the market |
gee...they look Aztecan to me
"not in my name" shouted the Pope  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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