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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject: 88 east
Subject description: a song in 88cET
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A song written using a heptatonic mode of 88cET: a non octave scale based on the division of a perfect fifth (3/2) in 8 steps of 88 cents each. This scale has a pseudo octave 1228 cents wide. The seven steps of the scale have been mapped to the seven white keys of my master keyboard. The only sound source is Cameleon 5000 by Camel Audio.

arrow Listen to 88 east

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

read what X.J.Scott had to say about it and what Shaahin Mohajeri said!

this song has also been presented by Hans Straub, here, as an example of composition in 88cET.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And I like it too Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I thoroughly enjoyed listening to that piece. I don't understand the technicalities of the scaling, but don't feel I need to to appreciate the beauty of its feel. It was very haunting, cathedral like, cavernous in its feel. It quite reminded me of videos I have seen of deep caves with massive formations of stalagmites and stalactites of various minerals under intense colored lighting.

Probably not the feedback you were expecting. Just my take on the experience.

Thank you for sharing this piece with us.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Danno Gee Ray wrote:

Probably not the feedback you were expecting. Just my take on the experience.

no, that's fine Very Happy in general I would say that it is not necessary to understand the technicalities of music to appreciate it Exclamation

and thanks Jan. Glad you like it Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very nice Seraph. I liked the way your back ground was sort of rhythmic with the occasional touch of a deeper bass. Lots of eastern influence in there, great stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Drone wrote:
Very nice Seraph.


Thanks Drone Very Happy
In a few days I'll post another tune based on the same tuning Exclamation Stay tuned Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Looking forward to it ! I read up on some of that microtonal stuff. Quite interesting... How do you like LMSO ? I would be interested in picking up a program like this if it was flexible with many interfaces or synths.
I noticed on their site the synth list wasn't that extensive. -think I'd probably prefer something which would integrate with logic as an audio unit if that would be possible.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Drone wrote:
How do you like LMSO ? I would be interested in picking up a program like this if it was flexible with many interfaces or synths.
I noticed on their site the synth list wasn't that extensive. -think I'd probably prefer something which would integrate with logic as an audio unit if that would be possible.

I love LMSO Very Happy it works flawlessly with Logic Pro (that btw has microtonal capabilities by itself but limited to 12 notes per octave).
I'll post some pictures that show the data flow between the 2 applications. I often use 3 applications: Logic, LMSO and Reason at the same time and it's great. LMSO can even retune applications (like Reason) and/or hardware synths (like my Kawai MP4 and Nord Modular G2) not intended for microtonal use, so I would say the list of retunable electronic instruments with LMSO is quite extensive Exclamation

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:

I'll post some pictures that show the data flow between the 2 applications.


These are a couple of examples of the environment set for LMSO. You have to create a midi track, in Logic, whose output is LMSO input. The retuned LMSO output goes to the sound source. On the first one I am playing from the computer keyboard, on the second one from my master keyboard (port 5 of my midi interface)


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That is awesome ! Ok I understand the setup for routing from your port for keyboard controller or caps lock keyboard to input notes, but why do you take the IAC1 LMSO channel & split it to channel strips numbers one & two ?
Is this the way you route it for stereo input ? Please excuse my newbie questions. I've only been using logic for a short time. Embarassed Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Drone wrote:
why do you take the IAC1 LMSO channel & split it to channel strips numbers one & two ?

look at the attached picture:
LMSO is able to retune hardware and software synths without microtonal capabilities thru pitch bend that is a global data for midi channel. so, in order to independently retune 2 simultaneous notes they each have to be on a different midi channel. The green box called LMSO IAC1 is set for 2 notes polyphony (# Voices). the base channel is #2 so notes will be on channel 2 and 3. Look now at the channel splitter. It receives notes from LMSO IAC1 and sends notes on channel 2 to an EXS24 instance and those on channel 3 to the other instance of this sampler. Each sampler has to be monophonic and the pitch bend range MUST match on both the sending application (LMSO) and the receiving one (EXS24).
So 8 notes polyphony would mean having to set up 8 monophonic instruments on 8 different midi channels. It's tricky but doable Cool


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
Drone wrote:
why do you take the IAC1 LMSO channel & split it to channel strips numbers one & two ?

look at the attached picture:
LMSO is able to retune hardware and software synths without microtonal capabilities thru pitch bend that is a global data for midi channel. so, in order to independently retune 2 simultaneous notes they each have to be on a different midi channel. The green box called LMSO IAC1 is set for 2 notes polyphony (# Voices). the base channel is #2 so notes will be on channel 2 and 3. Look now at the channel splitter. It receives notes from LMSO IAC1 and sends notes on channel 2 to an EXS24 instance and those on channel 3 to the other instance of this sampler. Each sampler has to be monophonic and the pitch bend range MUST match on both the sending application (LMSO) and the receiving one (EXS24).
So 8 notes polyphony would mean having to set up 8 monophonic instruments on 8 different midi channels. It's tricky but doable Cool


Ok I got it now. Embarassed Split with 1 voice per channel to a monophonic sampler.-That's a good way to utilize the exs24. I never use mine which is kind of a shame cause I'm usually on the mach5-2.
Found another microtuner here which looks more tailored to the max msp/pluggo stuff. Either way I'd like to eventually get something for tuning this type of notation. http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/16tone/

Great stuff Seraph, thanks again for sharing that info.

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