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loss1234

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Ilanode
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:37 am Post subject:
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| Guess he's using the same as Doepfer: Cliff S6. |
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loss1234

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bubblechamber

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject:
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| they are probably switchcraft. you can always buy hex nuts to replace the round ones... |
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loss1234

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Photon

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject:
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check out Kobiconn 16PJ012. Mousers got 'em.
I've been using them all along and I've been very happy with them
here's a pic from http://www.sdiy.org/xyzzy:
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numbernone
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject:
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JUST GO BANANAS AND NEVER LOOK BACK!!!!
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Wild Zebra

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject:
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I like the round ones, I think the problem is not that they come loose, but that they are harder to get good and tight.  _________________ "your stripes are killer bro" |
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Tim Servo

Joined: Jul 16, 2006 Posts: 924 Location: Silicon Valley
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject:
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I use the Kobicon jacks too, and I like them a lot. If you order those, make sure you DON'T get the 16PJ011, as those have the circular dress nut. BTW, Mouser does sell a tool for properly tightening the circular nut just in case you already have a bunch of those on hand.
The Cliff jacks that Plan B uses are nice, but they are also one of Peter's greatest sources of frustration. The distributors regularly run out of stock, and take many many weeks to fill orders. From what I've heard, they work just fine WHEN you can get the darned things.
Note that the Cliff jacks used by Plan B are meant to be mounted to a panel (threaded bushing) and soldered to a PCB (PCB lug connections), whereas the Kobicon jacks (16PJ012) are panel mounted and used with individual wires (wire lug connections). Look on the same page in the Mouser catalog, and you'll find other jacks in the various mounting styles. On the panel side, you want "threaded bushing with hex dress nut." Oh, and don't use the 16PJ012 with panels thicker than .093" (.063" is ideal). For example, I found these didn't work with PAiA Frac panels (.125" thick), and I had to counterbore the back side of the panels to get my jacks to work. A big PITA.
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Tim Servo

Joined: Jul 16, 2006 Posts: 924 Location: Silicon Valley
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject:
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Oh, and the tool for tightening the circular "knurled" dress nut is the 382-0006 from Mouser (about $6).
Tim (surfer's might call it "knurly, dude") Servo |
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loss1234

Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject:
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great info
thanks all i will check out the kobiconn and the tool
my 13 modules up to now have been circular but i am definitely in need of a change.
oh and here is a silly question i need answered about tightening pots (while we are on the subject)
what kind of tool do you use to tighten pot nuts? a socket wrench? (the arm would bump into other jacks?)...i use needle nose pliers right now but they usually scrape or crush the finish on the nuts..
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Sound
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factus10
Joined: Jun 20, 2007 Posts: 158 Location: Buffalo, NY
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject:
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| loss1234 wrote: | | what kind of tool do you use to tighten pot nuts? a socket wrench? (the arm would bump into other jacks?) |
I use a hollow shaft nut driver or a deep socket. |
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fonik

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:59 am Post subject:
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if you experience problems with the contacting of the cliff sockets you may have the wrong type. you want the CL1384(1). it's the one for PCB mount and it provides better contacting than the CL1384.
i use the CL1384(1). you will have to order them directly from cliff, i think. _________________
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Funky40
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject:
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| Tim Servo wrote: | Oh, and the tool for tightening the circular "knurled" dress nut is the 382-0006 from Mouser (about $6).
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thanks alot Tim.
I wished i'd knowed that earlier...
Regarding to Cliff:
listen to fonik !
Regarding to Kobiconn 16PJ012:
Ground and Tip have a 90° angle, thats not good for fast wiring.
I also damage some when mounting and screwed them tight.
the patchfeel is good if you don't damage it .
Lumberg is selling them too ( Farnell, Germany ), so it will be the same, but the Lumberg are those with ring nut.
the best 1/8" for me by far are the Switchcraft AX41 ( or AX42 A with switch ) ( mouser )
I never damaged one and they work perfect with EVERY cable i have.
( i tryed out around 10 types of minijacks )
I take the Cliffs for the fonik modules when printmount sockets are needed, but i have to get them very expensive from Doepfer.
A groupbuy for those would be cool ! ( if we would take 1000+ i think ) |
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goldenechos
Joined: Jun 06, 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Marshall, NC
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject:
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| loss1234 wrote: | does anyone know where pete/plan b get those great looking 1/8" jacks that look more like 1/4" jacks (they use a real nut instead of a circle)
i have checked mouser but dont see anything that looks like that.
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Plan B uses Cliff Sockets.
The fellow up at Metalbox was selling these for a decent price.
I bought 200 direct from CliffUSA and the cost was about 60 cents a piece. HOWEVER, after shipping (from the UK factory) the cost more like 1.10 each.
The Kobiconn socket that Blacet uses are better sockets in my opinion. They just make more contact and seem to last longer. Those are available from Mouser.
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Thomas Henry
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject:
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I've never used 1/8" jacks much, but when I did always liked the professional appearance of the knurled nuts. The late (and still missed) John Simonton recommended using a small pair of diagonal clippers as a spanner. The tips of the clippers slip into the 180 degree slots on the nut. If you are careful, it is straightforward to torque the nut shut without slipping and scratching the panel. I built several PAiA units for friends some three decades ago and must have used this technique a couple hundred times or so without any problems.
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goldenechos
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:57 am Post subject:
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| Thomas Henry wrote: | I've never used 1/8" jacks much, but when I did always liked the professional appearance of the knurled nuts.
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Must a generational thing because the Knurled Nuts remind me of consumer audio in the 80's. Cheap things to plug an even cheap mic or headset into....
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