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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: General question regarding Frequency Shifter assembly Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, I finally get to start on the FS-1 boards. For the sake of efficiency, is it better to:

a. Grab all common values of a component and then try to find where they all go? eg. all the 1M resistors.

or:

b. Look on the board, see a component value and then hunt for the parts bag with that component/value, then move onto the adjacent resistor, etc. and do the same thing all over? ? eg. see the 4M7 resistor spot and then hunt through the parts bags for the 4M7 resistors, then move onto the 1k next to it.

Last one, is it better to mount the SMT capacitors first or last?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.
David

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'd always mount smd caps first. Test between power rails and earth for shorts after fitting to make sure nothing is bridged.

I usually work from BOM and fit all of specific value at the same time, eg all 100R, then all 150R etc. Fit resistors and diodes first, then IC sockets if you're using them, then caps, then transistors and IC's last.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks Allan.

That's how I've done the other boards I've built so far, but none were quite so dense and the boards had the component number, not the value.

In looking at the PCB's more closely, I think grouping common component values will be the better way to go.

What you say makes sense for the SMD caps, too. I was worried about heating them as I soldered other components in proximity to the caps.

David

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

dingebre wrote:

That's how I've done the other boards I've built so far, but none were quite so dense


Yes, the small size of the boards can be misleading. If you look into some of the vintage effects that inspired my designs, they are using much larger PCBs. Making a compact layout is a lot of work (but fun work for me!), and it helps to keep the price low for the mere PCBs. But it won't keep components costs, and labour time equally low, I'm afraid.


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and the boards had the component number, not the value.


I always found component values much more convenient on the PCB silkscreen than reference designators. When you open a bag of resistors, there's "2.2kOhm" printed on the label, not "R345".
(I suspect reference designators are often used because there is less risk for the designer: No need for a re-design (cost!) on mere component value changes!)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks JH.

No complaints here about the size or density : ) Since I use FracRack format, smaller boards are always welcome and I've been practicing soldering the SMT parts and it really isn't that bad. In fact, I think I might like them better as there are no leads to bend or cut after soldering.

I actually like having the component value printed on the PCB as well. I think it makes for less chance of error on stuffing the board.

I have just been used to PCB's that have a component number silk screened on rather than value and was looking for opinions. The kit Tobias put together already has the parts sorted by value, making the overall job much easier I think.

Thanks again,
David

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