| Author |
Message |
phesago
Joined: Mar 30, 2011
Posts: 21
Location: ARIZONA
|
 Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:29 pm Post subject:
MIDI IN and OUT on NL1 |
  |
|
So, I was curious, when I am setting up with an external sequencer, is it absolutely necessary that I hook up both the MIDI in and out? The manual isn't too clear about this, and my google-fu isn't showing me any answers either.
To clarify, I am trying to use a 4in-1out box to hook up several pieces to my Korg Triton and record on the on board sequencer. I would like to know if this will be satisfactory, or will I need another piece if I have to use both MIDI in and out on the NL1. |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
 |
Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003
Posts: 4529
Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
Audio files: 123
G2 patch files: 12
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
Just one cable will do.
I assume you like to switch Midi In and Out every time you want to make a play back? Surely you will do this twice and will leave it...
So, I would say can you tell what you want to do in practise?
I think you'll need both Midi Ins and Outs on all machines...
BTW be careful with Midi on the NordLead1.
You will be back with more questions... 
Wout |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
phesago
Joined: Mar 30, 2011
Posts: 21
Location: ARIZONA
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:50 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
| Quote: | BTW be careful with Midi on the NordLead1.
You will be back with more questions... Smile |
Care to elaborate? I know this might be to open ended for the amount of responses involved, but if you could touch on some of the more common issues, that would be sweet. Like, some of the serious issues would be good to know information. Seeing in how I am basically teaching myself all this midi stuff, any thing you have to say on the subject would be greatly appreciated.
| Quote: | | I think you'll need both Midi Ins and Outs on all machines... |
Well, this would obviously be ideal, but from what I see for sale on amazon and ebay, I haven't run into an midi box that would be good for hooking up all the In and Outs for all the pieces I would like to hook up at one time.
Do you suggest that I hook up both 4out /1in and a 4in/1out to the korg? This may seem very simple, but for some reason it seems like thats what I will have to do.
Also, I would like to thank you for taking the time to reply to my posts. I have tried to ask questions on other forums, and for the most part I dont get replies. I know I am new to this hobby, especially MIDI, but I really appreciate the replies.  |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
phesago
Joined: Mar 30, 2011
Posts: 21
Location: ARIZONA
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:00 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
| Quote: | | Do you suggest that I hook up both 4out /1in and a 4in/1out to the korg? |
Sorry for the double post, but would I actually need a 1in/4 thru box instead? I think this makes more sense. |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003
Posts: 4529
Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
Audio files: 123
G2 patch files: 12
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:06 am Post subject:
|
|
|
| phesago wrote: | | … Care to elaborate? |
Sure. This is electro-music.com. If you like me to come over you have to pay the travel costs… 
You are using the Triton as it is a computer. That’s the way most musicians would use when sequencing.
If you want to record an external (seeing from the computer) device there is a line device/MidiOut to sequencer/MidiIn. Now you can record.
If you want to perform a play back there has to be a line device/MidiIn to sequencer/MidiOut. If you wasn’t you can switch the cables every time you perform a different task.
There is also an option MidiThrough!
This is used to perform the play back.
MidiIn goes into the device when it has the right device code and to the MidiThrough, which cable goes to the next device.
The NordLead doesn’t have a MidiThrough connector, so it has to be always at the end of the line, because it cannot surpass the MidiData to the next device.
Your Midi 4In/1Out box is a MidiMerger. Mostly these boxes cannot work as a MidiThrough box.
When the other devices have a MidiThrough connector, the set up is simple:
- the MidiOuts of the devices are connected to the 4Ins of the box. You can record now (When setting all channels right.)
- the MidiOut of the Korg goes in the MidiIn of the first device. MidiThrough of the first device goes into the MidiIn of the second device. MidiThrough of the second device goes into the Midi in of the third device and MidiThrough of the third device goes into the MidiIn of the NordLead.
I’ll be waiting…
Wout |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003
Posts: 4529
Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
Audio files: 123
G2 patch files: 12
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:08 am Post subject:
|
|
|
You have a NordLead1?
Wout |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
phesago
Joined: Mar 30, 2011
Posts: 21
Location: ARIZONA
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:00 am Post subject:
|
|
|
| Wout Blommers wrote: | | phesago wrote: | | … Care to elaborate? |
Sure. This is electro-music.com. If you like me to come over you have to pay the travel costs…
|
I was referring to what you meant by...
| Quote: | BTW be careful with Midi on the NordLead1.
You will be back with more questions... |
I was hoping that you could tell me what were some of the problems I would be encountering.
| Quote: | | When the other devices have a MidiThrough connector, the set up is simple |
Unfortuantely, the Korg Triton is the only one of my pieces with a MIDIThrough connector. So, I can't daisy chain the pieces together. I wish it was that easy.
Here is what I think my set up will have to look like, do you see any issue with it? Below I have descirbed what piece is which, if that matters.
[img]
By phesago at 2011-04-12[/img]
1. Thru box, 1in 2thru
2. Thru box 1in 4thru
3. MIDImerger 4in 1out
K- Korg
m3- Moog taurus
NL- Nord Lead 1
P5- prophet 5
Z- random drum machine
Do you think this set up will work? Is there a way to simplify it? Will the MIDImerger work the way I have shown in the diagram?
I know the diagram shows an interface and a PC (computer), but I do not want to work with a computer yet.
| Quote: | | You have a NordLead1? |
Yes I do! |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003
Posts: 4529
Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
Audio files: 123
G2 patch files: 12
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:29 am Post subject:
|
|
|
| phesago wrote: | I was referring to what you meant by... | Wout wrote: | BTW be careful with Midi on the NordLead1.
You will be back with more questions... |
I was hoping that you could tell me what were some of the problems I would be encountering. |
See at the end of this post…
| phesago wrote: | | … Do you think this set up will work? Is there a way to simplify it? |
There could be a way to simplify it, but there has to be some investigations to be done… | phesago wrote: | | Will the MIDImerger work the way I have shown in the diagram? |
Thinking of it I’m not sure, so I tend to say… NO! It won’t work…
Midi merger adds different Midi into the same Midi channel, I believe. It’s about 10 years ago I worked with a merger on stage…
So we have to find which device will be number 3 in the diagram. | phesago wrote: | | Wout wrote: | | You have a NordLead1? |
Yes I do! |
You’ll have to be aware the NordLead always react to incoming MidiData and in a strange way! Besides the dedicated Midi channel the Slots will also react to the left most active Slot, which is mostly Slot A. To avoid this you have to de-activate all Slots besides Slot D (or shut down the Midi channel). A long time ago the designers of the Lead thought this would be convenient making Performance files. It is, actually, but nobody understood it, so it was taken out the NordLead2 and 2X, only noy in the Manual
Wout |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
phesago
Joined: Mar 30, 2011
Posts: 21
Location: ARIZONA
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:45 am Post subject:
|
|
|
| Quote: | | So we have to find which device will be number 3 in the diagram. |
This is the one I am thinking about buying.
http://www.midisolutions.com/prodqmr.htm
| Quote: | | You’ll have to be aware the NordLead always react to incoming MidiData and in a strange way! Besides the dedicated Midi channel the Slots will also react to the left most active Slot, which is mostly Slot A. To avoid this you have to de-activate all Slots besides Slot D (or shut down the Midi channel). A long time ago the designers of the Lead thought this would be convenient making Performance files. It is, actually, but nobody understood it, so it was taken out the NordLead2 and 2X, only noy in the Manual |
Generally, I have only kept slot A open, and turning off B, C and D. |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003
Posts: 4529
Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
Audio files: 123
G2 patch files: 12
|
| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:50 am Post subject:
|
|
|
Never worked with it, but the brand is well known.
Please notify the forum about the results.
Wout |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
phesago
Joined: Mar 30, 2011
Posts: 21
Location: ARIZONA
|
| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:05 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
| The MIDImerger works exactly as I hoped. |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003
Posts: 4529
Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
Audio files: 123
G2 patch files: 12
|
| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
Great!
Have fun and thanks for returning the results
Wout |
|
|
Back to top
|
|
|
|
Forum index » Instruments and Equipment » Nord Lead and Nord Wave synths
FAQ
Calendar
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
Chat Room
