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funkyfarm

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yusynth

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sneakthief

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iorobyy

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Sebo

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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:24 am Post subject:
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Hi:
In the last part of the EFM Mad Mouse Synth manual (Mods section), there
is a simple sub octave generator taked from the SH-101. Is based on a 4013.
I'm planning to build 2 to add to my Sound Lab Mini-Synth.
Here is a link to the pdf:
http://www.synthdiy.com/show/getfile.asp?get=171 _________________ Sebo
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funkyfarm

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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:31 am Post subject:
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Sub OSC is really usefull on a (signle-vco) SH-101 ! really
But who has a 4013 audio divider in his setup and won't be able to sell it ? |
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RF

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fonik

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:02 am Post subject:
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funkyfarm wrote: | Sub OSC is really usefull on a (signle-vco) SH-101 ! really
But who has a 4013 audio divider in his setup and won't be able to sell it ? |
maybe the tracking would be an argument for using suboscillators instead of a 2nd VCO. the additional registers will be in perfect tune to the 1st register. _________________
cheers,
matthias
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Sebo

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:42 am Post subject:
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fonik wrote: | funkyfarm wrote: | Sub OSC is really usefull on a (signle-vco) SH-101 ! really
But who has a 4013 audio divider in his setup and won't be able to sell it ? |
maybe the tracking would be an argument for using suboscillators instead of a 2nd VCO. the additional registers will be in perfect tune to the 1st register. |
And in perfect phase. _________________ Sebo
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funkyfarm

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:23 am Post subject:
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Well, so 4013, 4024, 4040 and all CMOS 4xxx-based clock divider do some good subharmo generator.
Sonically, these are not pure, "precise" oscillator waveforms...
Good for basslines, "à la SH-101" !
I have 4024-based trigger dividers :
http://www.analog-synth.de/synths/mod2/trigdiv/trigdiv.htm
Sebo wrote: | the additional registers will be in perfect tune to the 1st register.
And in perfect phase. |
The fact that all waveforms are in phase and harmonically related sometimes lead to some cancellation. |
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isak

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:22 am Post subject:
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Sebo wrote: | Hi:
In the last part of the EFM Mad Mouse Synth manual (Mods section), there
is a simple sub octave generator taked from the SH-101. Is based on a 4013.
I'm planning to build 2 to add to my Sound Lab Mini-Synth.
Here is a link to the pdf:
http://www.synthdiy.com/show/getfile.asp?get=171 |
Hi guys,
sorry to bring up an old thread.
Sebo did you build the Sub osc from the Mad mouse synth manual?
if yes how does it sounds? _________________ http://www.myspace.com/mgmtrance |
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LektroiD

Joined: Aug 23, 2008 Posts: 1019 Location: Scottish Borders
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:32 am Post subject:
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This looks like a damned useful module. I'm really surprised nobody's done a batch of PCBs for something like this. |
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isak

Joined: Dec 13, 2009 Posts: 847 Location: Israel
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:15 am Post subject:
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Hi
I did a stripboard layout, it's only my second layout ever
I know it's ugly but I don't care
I want to use it with the x0xb0x VCO I hope it will work good.
See if I have any mistakes please.
Cheers guys. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/mgmtrance Last edited by isak on Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:48 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Sebo

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:39 am Post subject:
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I never finished my SoundLab Mini-Synth, I get derailed building modules for my modular. I have to build some sub-octave generators for my modular too, but I always start building something else... _________________ Sebo
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isak

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:14 am Post subject:
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Thank you for your reply.
I didn't liked the sound of the sound lab so much so I sold it, but it's a fun project for advanced starters
Can you Please go over my layout to see if I made a mistake ?
Cheers,
Isak E. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/mgmtrance |
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Sebo

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:32 am Post subject:
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Pin 3 of the 4013 should be connected to the collector of the transistor, not to +12V. _________________ Sebo
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isak

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:45 am Post subject:
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Thank you.
I've updated the layout above, so if you guys want to try it out and give the results here that would be great.
cheers,
Isak E. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/mgmtrance |
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cyclic

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:44 am Post subject:
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Necro post!
So i've just built one of these combined into a single module with 1/3 of the Yusynth 4017 divider and a 4069 clock generator which is normalled to either or both dividers. So the one module gives me a clock output and divisions of 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,16,32,64,128.
I accidentally drilled an extra hole in the panel, so I also made a NOT gate for both sub-modules, because, well, I had to do something with that hole and the other half of the CD4069..
ANYWAY: I would recommend to anyone who build EITHER of the circuits here to add a protection diode from gnd to the input transistor base as Yusynth does in his 4017 divider. This way you can feed it a bipolar signal from anything without worrying about frying the input buffer transistor.
It triggers happily from square, triangle, sine, ramp etc, but obviously theres a teeny tiny bit of a delay with non-square LFO inputs before the signal gets high enough to trigger.
funkyfarm wrote: | Well, so 4013, 4024, 4040 and all CMOS 4xxx-based clock divider do some good subharmo generator.
Sonically, these are not pure, "precise" oscillator waveforms...
Good for basslines, "à la SH-101" !
I have 4024-based trigger dividers :
http://www.analog-synth.de/synths/mod2/trigdiv/trigdiv.htm
Sebo wrote: | the additional registers will be in perfect tune to the 1st register.
And in perfect phase. |
The fact that all waveforms are in phase and harmonically related sometimes lead to some cancellation. |
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Zac Belver

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