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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Software Vocoder Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

can anybody tell me if there is any vocoder software available, as a VSTi or anything? I'm looking for something that i can use along with any synth in reason or cubase for example, and then just use my pc's mic input to record my voice with, in realtime. Is there such a thing?

thankyou SO MUCH for any help!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

look at www.kvr-vst.com

Lots of freeware/shareware/commercialware VST plugins.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks for the quick reply! i'm having a quick browse there now. do you know if such software even exists, do you know it's on that site, or is that just a VSTi resource that might have one?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There's lots of VSTi vocoders, so I'd just recommend you download a few a see which one you like...I can't say one is better than another.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

http://products.prosoniq.com/cgi-bin/register?service=showdetail&refno=46

and

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/forums.html?id=vokator_us

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

...and
http://www.apple.com/logic/filterandvocodereffects.html
...and the one inside Propellerheads Reason
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i could never figure out how to use the one that's built into reason - i couldnt see of any way to use the pc's mic input as the input for the vocoder, is there a way?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

madhatter wrote:
i could never figure out how to use the one that's built into reason - i couldnt see of any way to use the pc's mic input as the input for the vocoder, is there a way?

Reason does not handle audio in real time so, first you have to record the audio tracks in .wav format then use them Idea

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

In principle, Reason cannot process external inputs.

PeterTools Hammer will be able to do it though...
http://www.petertools.com/hammer_overview.html

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i fail to see a link to download even a demo on that site...

thanks for the other links, none of them seem to be in realtime though. does my soundcard suck, or are they designed not to be? i want my voice to change as i say it, not a few seconds later...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Make sure your VST host is using your sound card in DirectX, or even better, ASIO mode. Don't use normal WDM (Windows Multimedia) drivers.

When assigning the audio ports in your VST host, there is usually a distinction between the various ways of communicating with your hardware.

Basically, one WDM style drivers go through the windows kernel, which is very slow. ASIO is the best, and DirectX the second best thing. These allow the host to bypass the normal kernel mixer and write directly to hardware.


Otherwise, the software might suck, but you should get a basic 16-band vocoder easily running in at least near real time (maybe 100ms latency)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks for the help. will try it when i get home tonight.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

madhatter wrote:
i fail to see a link to download even a demo on that site...


That's why I wrote "will be able to do it", as in "in the future" Idea
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i failed to see that, my apologies!

in the meantime, i've been able to get the fruity vocoder to work in absolute realtime, and it's so much fun! thanks for all your help though guys!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

madhatter wrote:
i failed to see that, my apologies!

in the meantime, i've been able to get the fruity vocoder to work in absolute realtime, and it's so much fun! thanks for all your help though guys!


No problem Smile

Isn't vocoding fun? I use it all the time on everything but vocals Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Why Project wrote:

Isn't vocoding fun? I use it all the time on everything but vocals Laughing


Me too! Ok, one reason is that 97% of my stuff is instrumental but the vocoded vocals are used so much in all kinds of cheesy techno that it's hard to escape the notion of them making pretty much ANYTHING sound more like cheesy techno Rolling Eyes

Especially with more ambient stuff I use vocoder often with drums. A good companion would be a choir sound or a pad. Then just try out which one works better as carrier and which one as modulator. It works both ways, the result is just a bit different.

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2005 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

prosoniq orange vocoder vst

has got some really good banks to talk through Smile

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