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paul e.

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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject:
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if i don;t make music, my mental/physical health starts to go down hill rapidly...so, i really have no choice in the matter
3 days seems to be the maximum time i can handle away from music
having projects with defined goals helps keep things chugging along nicely _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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salo-t

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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject:
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I simply have to forget everything about inspiration, everything I know about music, and everything I have learned about music, and then just do it.
If I think too much about making music, I can't get anything done, and I drown in the quackmire of self-criticism and perfectionism.
Unfortunately, the second option happens much more often than the first one.  |
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opg

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:47 am Post subject:
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| salo-t wrote: | I simply have to forget everything about inspiration, everything I know about music, and everything I have learned about music, and then just do it.
If I think too much about making music, I can't get anything done, and I drown in the quackmire of self-criticism and perfectionism.
Unfortunately, the second option happens much more often than the first one.  |
I hear that. My most common problem, indeed! |
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mosc
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:14 pm Post subject:
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If I think too much about making music, I can't get anything done, and I drown in the quackmire of self-criticism and perfectionism. |
Me too. I have found lately that listening to other peoples' music and trying not to be judgemental or critical is quite a positive experience for me. Most of the new music I hear is from people who post their music here. Instead of my natural critical biases coming forth, I try to intentionally give other people the benifit of the doubt. Sometimes I force myself to like their music. Usually, I find that there really is something good about it - most of the time I don't even notice this at first. I try to give other people positive feedback and encouragement. After doing this, I find my own music more agreeable, and I'm less inhibited about it. _________________ --Howard
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a.vanvranken

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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject:
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I haven't read all the replies so maybe this is covered but this is what I noticed with myself.
If my life is just going along smooth, nothing wrong, nothing terribly exciting, just get up, go to work, go home, eat, drink, sleep, etc I don't write anything. The way I usually break out of that cycle is going on hikes, taking time to observe beautiful things (sunsets, clouds, all that), going on vacations, etc. Even going to the library and looking at really amazing pictures can help. Just somehow put something new into your head that wasn't there every day. Changing even the littlest thing in your routine helps also. Infact, I used to wake up 20 minutes before work and rush there as fast as I could. Now, I wake up a bit earlier. I brew me some coffee, enjoy my breakfast, and fiddle with a few tracks. That alone has helped alot, I mean night and day difference.
Also, if I'm ever caught in that cycle where you're coming up with alot of good ideas, getting a few patterns down in your sequencer, and BAM, nothing, I've noticed that getting some regular exercise really helps me stay focused on a song and follow it through to the end.
Oh and like 3 or 4 months ago I wasn't writing anything, I watch an amazing movie, and write like 3 new tracks. So maybe inspiring movies help too. And I'm sure if you're a book reader those are helpful as well.
-edit- I just read all the replies, really great ideas, I'm going to save this thread on my hard drive and refer to it when I'm feeling blocked and forgot how to be inspired.
One other thing, if you can learn to appreciate beauty to the point where it makes your eyes swell up and chills run up through your spine and into your head that always helps too.  _________________ www.avanvranken.com |
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Ferdo
Joined: Nov 17, 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Sarajevo
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:55 pm Post subject:
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[quote="Kruge"]
"Lvbsx" (virtual music composer) it can be helpful, even free version(demo),... |
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:36 am Post subject:
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I used to hate the process of turning everything on just to record an idea I had in my sleep.
So I built an auto power on box. It has a master outlet and a slave outlet which everything else powers off.
If I want to do anything musical, (even just listen to a CD) I turn on my amp, and voila! evrything comes on!
It definately helps with process block.
Saves power too! _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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Ferdo
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject:
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I tried couple "shots" with demo Lvbsx and it works, but really works.
This software offers new ideas, sometime even more. Problem -only .wav not .mid. |
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elektro80
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject:
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I just followed some of the Lvbsx linx somewhere and found this softie. I duno. It seems a bit crude and kidding out some melodic line seems far easier to do manually than running this app. I don´t doubt that it can be fun and useful though. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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klangumsetzer

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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:06 am Post subject:
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Hey all,
thank you, seraph, for this inspirational quote! funny thing to read a german text in english first. (also, the german version of von helmholtz's treatise 'on the sensation of tone' has been out-of print for ages. )
| seraph wrote: | Brahms on Composition
INSPIRATION AND CREATIVITY
1. All truly inspired ideas come from God, and the consciousness of being inspired by him. Your religiosity will make you more conscious and aware of that fact, and of the fact that God is nearer to you than others in your craft, and that you can consort with him without fear.
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Some of the ideas expressed in the Brahms interview sound very rosicrucian/boehme-like. does anyone with a better knowledge of brahms than i know more on this topic?
Also, someone on amazon.de commented on the incredability of this interview (and the views expressed therein.) Are there any more infos on the author of these interviews?
best regards
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seraph
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:44 am Post subject:
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| noodulator wrote: | Hey all,
thank you, seraph, for this inspirational quote! |
oh, you are welcome. actually I had to go back to read what I had posted more than 2 years ago to remember it  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Kassen
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:32 am Post subject:
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I'd be interested in how that affects those who have a religion which has a malevolent God or a complex pantheon......
See also;
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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:25 am Post subject:
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| noodulator wrote: | Some of the ideas expressed in the Brahms interview sound very rosicrucian/boehme-like. does anyone with a better knowledge of brahms than i know more on this topic?
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http://music.theory.home.att.net/brahmrls.htm is a dead link
As such it isn´t unreasonable that Brahms would have such ideas but then at the time this was a kind of new age dream partly based on nostalgia. He was an important part of the romantic music movement, but then the romantic period must be understood kinda like the mid 1950s- late 1970s. This later turned into the really new age stuff around the arts and crafts movement/ jugend thingie ( which is yet just another hippie extravaganza stomping into Hunter S. Thompson madness by 1919 or so ). Pretty hippie stuff. Personally I think Brahms is a bit over the top in a crude way. Certainly some of the music is really hot but I am not sure about what seems to be the consensus on intrepreting Brahms. Dunno, Tomita on heroin? _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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renevanderwouden

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Kassen
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:23 am Post subject:
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I think that's normally called vitamin D. A shortage of that one will make you depressed... _________________ Kassen |
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v-un-v
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:53 am Post subject:
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Going for a bike ride? That usually inspires me.
Although I haven't done any music for quite a while now  |
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seraph
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject:
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| v-un-v wrote: | | Going for a bike ride? That usually inspires me. |
while walking my now defunct dog all kinds of songs came to me only to disappear as soon as I got home. I need another dog and a portable recorder  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject:
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| seraph wrote: | | v-un-v wrote: | | Going for a bike ride? That usually inspires me. |
while walking my now defunct dog all kinds of songs came to me only to disappear as soon as I got home. I need another dog and a portable recorder  |
LOL! Me too
The worst is leaving the city for the country- somehow everything comes clear- then when I return, the intense noise of cars and people swearing at each other- frightens the inspiration away!
Seraph, have you considered taking a melodica with you? The Hohner one is very good- but there are some cheaper 3 octave 'piano' ones around |
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seraph
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject:
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| v-un-v wrote: |
Seraph, have you considered taking a melodica with you? The Hohner one is very good- but there are some cheaper 3 octave 'piano' ones around |
I do have one
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-9154.html
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject:
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aha- then you have no excuse!
Perhaps then you should circuit bend that toy saxophone instead?  |
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seraph
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject:
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| v-un-v wrote: |
Perhaps then you should circuit bend that toy saxophone instead?  |
right, but then my son Jarik will circuit bend me  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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memedesigner

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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:47 am Post subject:
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This is an older topic but a classic, so...:
what has worked for me in deblocking, worked like a charm really, has been Julia Cameron's book The Artist's Way. It's basically a 12 step program for creative recovery.
It's new-agey and so-80s for sure, something I would not have touched even with a long stick in 80s, but that I now find quite attracting. (I've become a softy mushy newagey person. Last night, just before falling asleep, I read some Rumi poem and thought I got it.)
So if you find your creative juices drying out and the superego ubercontrolling suggest give the Cameron book a try. |
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mosc
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:57 am Post subject:
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| memedesigner wrote: | | ... Julia Cameron's book The Artist's Way. It's basically a 12 step program for creative recovery. |
Don Slepian recommended that book to me a few years ago. I enjoyed it but I never applied the techniques rigorously. _________________ --Howard
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:26 am Post subject:
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| memedesigner wrote: | | Julia Cameron's book The Artist's Way |
I got that too, read something but never went thru the exercises. A friend of mine, a composer living in NYC, recommended that to me a long time ago. Maybe it's time to get back to it  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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| You don't need to be that rigorous about the book's exercises. Just sticking with the basics through some extended period of time seems to do the trick. |
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