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renevanderwouden

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paul e.

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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:45 am Post subject:
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i have begun to avoid using plug ins..wherever possible
the exception is those special DSP type plug ins that utilise new approaches, or synthesis techniques
but, i am finding that even a cheap old yamaha reverb hardware unit sounds better than any fancy dancy Waves or freeware plug in..
even an old stomp box phaser usually beats out the cold and plain modulation effects found in DAW
good used deals on hardware EQ's. Comps..etc etc
or re-amping a sound from a DAW into an old tube amp and mic'ing the result
the DAW is now one giant tape recorder for me
i soon hope to be able to again mix on a large format analog board
just need 50 billion I/O channels _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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elektro80
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Joined: Mar 25, 2003 Posts: 21959 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:52 am Post subject:
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Logic Pro ( 7.xx )
UAD-1
Various stuff from Arturia and others
Peak
KORG KLC with the mini MS-20 controller
Still using Cubase 5 VST 32 as a host for stuff like the Waldorf PPG
Still using various analog outboard stuff. Some old instruments are still in use like the NM-1 keys, various synths and noisemakers from Korg, Octave Instruments, Yamaha, Moog, Roland and others. Some old el-pianos and organs are still being dragged up and down from the cellar whenever I need them.
I even use reel to reel decks a lot. Gotta buy a new batch of tapes soon though.
Plugins are fine with me, but I tend to use these in a modular fashion in order to emulate certain kinds of gear and soundsignatures. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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renevanderwouden

Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 186 Location: Gouda (NL)
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opg

Joined: Mar 29, 2004 Posts: 954 Location: Berkeley, CA, US
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:07 am Post subject:
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I've been using Fruity Loops for several years now, but now it's just because I like the piano roll editor so much. I like v3.5 because it seems less buggy to me, but I also have Fruity Loops Studio (v4) because you can use it as a VSTi in other programs, like Cubase. I was using Cubase for a while, but it was bothering me. Mosc suggested Reaper, which has been pretty cool so far.
I'm trying to get back to less sequencing and more live recording. More "one giant tape recorder" as paul e. put it.
I'm also trying to avoid VST plugins, except for limiters, bit crushers, and VST instruments for chiptune stuff. _________________ One Player Game | OPG on SoundCloud |
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cebec

Joined: Apr 19, 2004 Posts: 1098 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:33 am Post subject:
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I'm using Reaper and Max/MSP. I use some free dynamics plug-ins, occasionally, and I own Voxengo's Pristine Space for convolution reverb.
I used to use FL Studio, VAZ Modular, Reaktor, Cubase SX, Ableton Live, but the Nord G2, Max/MSP and Reaper have taken their places. |
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paul e.

Joined: Sep 22, 2003 Posts: 1567 Location: toronto, canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject:
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renevanderwouden wrote: | I avoid all the free stuff as much as possible. Especially for PC there's a lot which is horrible.
I agree on using a Valve/tube compressor or pre-amp. ART's Pro VLA is an interesting one. |
ART makes some excellent, affordable gear
highly remcommended as a good way to add some tube action into the mix
the ART Tube EQ is fantastic..and very affordable
check out this review someone did for this item..[no, not me btw]
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/ART/Dual+Tube+EQ/10/1
very impressive _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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elektro80
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Joined: Mar 25, 2003 Posts: 21959 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject:
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I have used that one once, and it sounded to me that those tubes aren´t used in the actual filter circuit, but rather slammed on as part of the line driver stage. The unit is no bad at all, but I am pretty sure Tube EQ is not a precise term for what it is. "EQ.. with some tubes in there too.." is more like it. That said, a "true" tube EQ device is an aquired taste really. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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elektro80
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject:
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Hmm.. very OT.. but here goes:
A secret weapon for recording bass stuff like bass guitars and bassy synths is amping these and using omni mics when recording the sound off the cabs.
This calls for a nice studio of course, but still. .. Bassy stuff generally sounds more fuller using omnis. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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paul e.

Joined: Sep 22, 2003 Posts: 1567 Location: toronto, canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: | Hmm.. very OT.. but here goes:
A secret weapon for recording bass stuff like bass guitars and bassy synths is amping these and using omni mics when recording the sound off the cabs.
This calls for a nice studio of course, but still. .. Bassy stuff generally sounds more fuller using omnis. |
for sure...fun stuff!
amping and then micing with various mics and room resonances can really add that 'something' to synths and drum machines _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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elektro80
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject:
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True, but this little trick is best performed in a well damped and acoustically treated recording space. The main point here in using omnis is not to record noises and shit but actually getting a better bass signal on "tape".  _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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paul e.

Joined: Sep 22, 2003 Posts: 1567 Location: toronto, canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: | True, but this little advice is best performed in a well damped and acoustically treated recording space. The main point here in using omnis is not to record noises and shit but actually getting a better bass signal on "tape".  |
wood pannelling ..and lava lamps ? hehe
pshaww....any room can work with the right this and that tweaking...! _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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elektro80
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject:
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Omnis ( good ones ) generally sounds better and gives a more extended bottom. If you have a controlled enviroment, try recording single drum hits using omni mics. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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brinxmat

Joined: Oct 24, 2005 Posts: 262 Location: Norway
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I find eating too much cake extends one's bottom. _________________ -- Say "&Eth;onne hit wæs hrenig weðer" |
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opg

Joined: Mar 29, 2004 Posts: 954 Location: Berkeley, CA, US
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:01 am Post subject:
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brinxmat wrote: | I find eating too much cake extends one's bottom. |
I remember trying to record a snare coming out of a nice Fender bass amp. It had the most wonderful CRACK to it (speaking of bottoms). I could never record it right. It made me sad. _________________ One Player Game | OPG on SoundCloud |
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paul e.

Joined: Sep 22, 2003 Posts: 1567 Location: toronto, canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:00 am Post subject:
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maybe theyll come up with a VST to emulate the Crack a fender bassman makes while an electronic snare is being run through it ..? _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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opg

Joined: Mar 29, 2004 Posts: 954 Location: Berkeley, CA, US
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:25 am Post subject:
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paul e. wrote: | maybe theyll come up with a VST to emulate the Crack a fender bassman makes while an electronic snare is being run through it ..? |
Not before they create a VST that dispenses tea from my headphone out jack  _________________ One Player Game | OPG on SoundCloud |
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v-un-v
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Joined: May 16, 2005 Posts: 8932 Location: Birmingham, England, UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject:
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Chocopoolp's "Bhajis Loops" on a Palm handheld is rocking my world right now
I want to fire Logic Audio (which I also own) and get a portastudio- probably an old Yamaha MD-8, because of it being digital but with an analogue desk. Plug-ins just don't do it for me anymore. _________________ ACHTUNG!
ALLES TURISTEN UND NONTEKNISCHEN LOOKENPEEPERS!
DAS KOMPUTERMASCHINE IST NICHT FÜR DER GEFINGERPOKEN UND MITTENGRABEN! ODERWISE IST EASY TO SCHNAPPEN DER SPRINGENWERK, BLOWENFUSEN UND POPPENCORKEN MIT SPITZENSPARKSEN.
IST NICHT FÜR GEWERKEN BEI DUMMKOPFEN. DER RUBBERNECKEN SIGHTSEEREN KEEPEN DAS COTTONPICKEN HÄNDER IN DAS POCKETS MUSS.
ZO RELAXEN UND WATSCHEN DER BLINKENLICHTEN. |
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Alexander

Joined: Apr 22, 2006 Posts: 373 Location: NL/QC
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:35 am Post subject:
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I use Digital Performer as my recording, mixdown and wave editor. I'm trying to use a combination of max/msp and my hardware to create my ideas and finish material in DP, I like the provided plugins and I have a lot of free audio units, which I sometimes use. _________________ http://husc-sound.com |
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softfreak

Joined: Feb 12, 2006 Posts: 149 Location: zürich switzerland
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject:
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When recording bands
I use http://www.dalastudios.com/technik.htm
(not mine btw.)
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is being plugged directly into my rme multiface.
editing is done with a very fine software.
for electronic recordings everything goes directly
through a rane line mixer into the rme. _________________ electroscape
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opg

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softfreak

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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:52 am Post subject:
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lucky man,
you have a car ...
opg wrote: | Well la di da! My car is missing the gas tank door.  |
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elektro80
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:55 am Post subject:
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softfreak wrote: | lucky man,
you have a car ... |
Well, considering you have access to a TL Audio VTC console .. do you need a car??  _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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softfreak

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elektro80 wrote: | softfreak wrote: | lucky man,
you have a car ... |
Well, considering you have access to a TL Audio VTC console .. do you need a car??  |
actually it`s not mine.
I rent the studio for a couple of sFr. if needed.
usually the band I`m recording pays that.
and : a car would be pure luxury.
I don`t need it. _________________ electroscape
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mosc
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:29 am Post subject:
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You are lucky to have access to such a nice recording set up and to not need a car. I like in a suburban America. I need to take the car to get to the nearest business. What is that? a gas station.  _________________ --Howard
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