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iceowl

Joined: Dec 12, 2008 Posts: 44 Location: Silicon Valley, California
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject:
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Ok - so there's downloading the .fpe file and sending $275 US off to Front Panel Express to get the Sound Lab Plus panel fabbed that's available on Ray's site.
Then there's doing intelligent data organization on the text layer, and getting the same panel done by FPE for substantially less as noted in the EM threads.
And finally, there's losing one's mind and going out and getting a drill press and some laser print text foil and doing the whole thing DIY.
So, say one was to take option #3, DIY - where would one find a good on-line source for stock aluminum to make a panel from. Specifically, I'm thinking of the textured panels that one would get from Synthtech or Brideschamber for modules they support.
Anyone can help?
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alder
Joined: Dec 31, 2008 Posts: 12 Location: K.C.
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glacial23
Joined: Apr 30, 2008 Posts: 32 Location: Cleveland, OH
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:10 am Post subject:
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| alder wrote: | | you could go cheap - plexiglas panel in old speaker box |
You have to be super careful with plexiglas - I tried that with mine and ended up with a sheet of cracked plexiglas. I ended up using 1/8" hardboard and a laminated printout of the panel glued to it. Worked pretty well - I posted it here. _________________ glacialcommunications.com |
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iceowl

Joined: Dec 12, 2008 Posts: 44 Location: Silicon Valley, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:27 am Post subject:
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I figured for the price of 2-3 smallish panels from Front Panel Express, I could buy a drill press. Indeed, in the U.S. with Amazon.com Prime I didn't have to pay tax or shipping. And they delivered overnight. So now I have the drill press.
I even have a micro mill (Sherline - non-CNC) back from the days when I was machining parts for antique pocket watches.
I just don't know where to get the anodized (black) aluminum stock from.
If anyone has a pointer to purveyors of stock aluminum front panel sheets, I'd be much obliged for it....
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Joe |
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LetterBeacon
Joined: Mar 18, 2008 Posts: 454 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject:
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| Unfortunately I think most people get their anodized aluminium from Schaeffer. You can buy painted aluminium panels from bridechamber.com, but they're only sized for individual synth modules. |
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factus10
Joined: Jun 20, 2007 Posts: 158 Location: Buffalo, NY
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject:
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You can order aluminum sheet in any size you like from Online Metals. You'll probably want 6061 sheet:
http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?id=76&step=2&top_cat=60
Paia's panels are .125" thick. Go to the section for custom cut and plug in the dimensions.
Of course, you'll have to drill it yourself.
As for paint, you have a couple of options. There's rattlecan from HomeLowesAceDepotHardware. I've done that with one panel; I painted it with primer first.
You can get them powdercoated locally. Look for the people who work on motorcycles; someone usually knows a powercoater in that circle.
You can anodize them yourself. Not particularly difficult, just requires a crapload of equipment.
If you're going to drill them yourself, get a center punch and a stepped bit. You won't regret it. _________________ Nothing succeeds like excess. |
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Adam-V

Joined: Jan 29, 2007 Posts: 300 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:57 pm Post subject:
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If you decide to go along the anodizing route, it is probably best to drill the panel before you anodise it. That way you don't run the risk of accidentally scratching the finish whilst you work on it.
Cheers,
Adam-V _________________ Digitalis Effect | Fractured Symmetry (www.spiralsect.com) |
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iceowl

Joined: Dec 12, 2008 Posts: 44 Location: Silicon Valley, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject:
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| Thanks all. I just ordered 5 5U by 2U panels from Metals on line in the composition suggested above. We'll now see how well I might succeed at fabbing my own panels before I give up, put the drill press on Craig's list, and order from LPE... |
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iceowl

Joined: Dec 12, 2008 Posts: 44 Location: Silicon Valley, California
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:03 pm Post subject:
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One other thing I will try - just hit me - that is why don't I try buying a panel of the appropriate dimension from Front Panel Express with no holes drilled or engraving. Just the anodized black panel. Turns out the panel on Ray's page, with all engraving and holes ignored but anodized black is about $40 US. I may try that.
For reference, a 5U by 2U (minus a bit for "slop") 6061T 0.125 width aluminum sheet from Metals On Line is only a couple dollars. Five of them plus shipping is running me about $37, but they're not anodized so I'll have to paint or powdercoat them somehow.
I wonder, has anyone tried fitting a Sound Lab or Sound Lab Plus into a 5U height MOTM format panel?
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RF

Joined: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 1502 Location: Northern Minnesota, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject:
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Not to talk anyone out of what they want to do - I mean, it's DIY, we can do whatever we feel like....but..
For $40 I can pretty much build another module. I'd be hard pressed to spend that for a blank aluminum (even anodized) panel.
I get my 1/8 inch aluminium panels for about a buck each cut to size.
Granted, mine are not even close to commercial quality panels - but if I wanted to spend time going for that I've seen some decals that look pretty nice (laser-tran?)
Dang I'm cheap.
bruce _________________ www.sdiy.org/rfeng
"I want to make these sounds that go wooo-wooo-ah-woo-woo.”
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iceowl

Joined: Dec 12, 2008 Posts: 44 Location: Silicon Valley, California
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject:
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True, $40 for a blank black panel is steep. I could make 3 Thomas Henry Platinum Power Supply modules for that much.
I was able to get 5 5Ux2U blanks including shipping for less than that from Metal On Line ($37 total - including shipping to California).
I am investigating a supplier local to me: Metal Supermarket.
They still haven't quoted me a price, but I asked for 5 5U x 2U panels. Cost for just blank aluminum, cost for anodized black, cost for black powder coating.
I'll let you know what they quote.
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pcp2020

Joined: Dec 25, 2007 Posts: 40 Location: boston
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rjd2
Joined: Sep 02, 2007 Posts: 236 Location: philly
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:24 pm Post subject:
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| RF wrote: |
I get my 1/8 inch aluminium panels for about a buck each cut to size.
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spill the beans, brother! where are said panels at said price? been buying the onlinemetals sheets, they come out to about 3-4 bucks per.
and to OP, ive used .062 and next one up(.08?), and am happy with them. they are quite easy to drill thru. |
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pcp2020

Joined: Dec 25, 2007 Posts: 40 Location: boston
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RF

Joined: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 1502 Location: Northern Minnesota, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:37 pm Post subject:
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| rjd2 wrote: | | RF wrote: |
I get my 1/8 inch aluminium panels for about a buck each cut to size.
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spill the beans, brother! where are said panels at said price? been buying the onlinemetals sheets, they come out to about 3-4 bucks per.
and to OP, ive used .062 and next one up(.08?), and am happy with them. they are quite easy to drill thru. |
There is a fairly large metal fabrication shop near me. I ask them for 1/8 aluminum 'drops' from projects they are working on. They cut them to the size I ask, and they ask for 'donut money' for the shop.
bruce _________________ www.sdiy.org/rfeng
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philpeery
Joined: Nov 08, 2006 Posts: 137 Location: new jersey, usa
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject:
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Here's what I am thinking of doing:
sheet alumimum from onlinemetals.com. They cut to your size specifications. Since I don't have easy access to a metal sheer, this is great.
DIY powder coating using the Eastwood.com deluxe kit #10112. I've done some powder coating a few years ago, now that the textured finishes in black are available, I am there! Plus there is a wide range of other colors too. And it IS something that you can DIY!
panel labeling might either be silk screening (did a LOT of that in high school), or maybe the decalpro system from Pulsarprofx.com. I use their pcb system, it works great!
Will post results once I get going. Hopefully in the next 3-4 weeks... |
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Wizard Mike
Joined: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 52 Location: Charlotte
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject:
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Hey guys, I've been reading a lot of the posts but this will be my first response. I know the aluminum front panel will look awesome once it is done. Personally though I really love what you can do with plexi. I know it's already been discussed but here is my example of what can be done with it. This is a piece I was commissioned to build for Daniel Howie of the band Sugar Glyder. I recommended the WSG or the Sound-Lab but he decided he liked the chirps of the TriWave-Atoner combo.
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RF

Joined: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 1502 Location: Northern Minnesota, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject:
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Great Job WizMike! I really like the backlit panel.
bruce _________________ www.sdiy.org/rfeng
"I want to make these sounds that go wooo-wooo-ah-woo-woo.”
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Wizard Mike
Joined: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 52 Location: Charlotte
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject:
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Thank you The were kinda added as an after thought. I think it will look good on stage. |
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