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Request for the designers - VCA/mixer type gadget
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:53 am    Post subject: Request for the designers - VCA/mixer type gadget
Subject description: a la Buchla 227 or Serge SMX/PAN combo
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This is something that looks rather useful - Cwejman make a similar sort of thing, and I've seen bumph from Doepfer and Plan B regarding forthcoming products of this nature, there doesn't seem to be anything DIY-orientated. My suggested features would be:

Master section:

Master output level control, a pair of output sockets (maybe quad? Not for me, but others might be into it), a master send out. Either one or two stereo aux ins, poss w/level controls. Maybe a headphone out.

Each channel:

level control, pan or quad pan, send level, maybe bass & treble tone controls. CV ins for level and pan at least (send level would be cool too - VC reverb/echo amount!) Mute switch? Input per channel, maybe a meter of some sort....

Adding such a piece - a four- or six-channel VC mixer w/send & tone control to a modular would make it into a little electronic music studio, a way of directly interfacing a selected set of instruments with the modular. I'd like such a thing very much.

Thoughts, anyone?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey,

I think Yusynth has something along that nature in the works.

http://yusynth.net/Modular/index.html

It's in the signal processor section, I was interested in it but opted for the MFOS 4 channel mixer because I didn't want to wait for the Yusynth module and the MFOS has stereo ins and inserts too and I bought foniks panner faders for the VC panning. Here's a link to the MFOS mixer.

http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth/STEREOMIXER2006/STEREOMIXER2006.php
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Request for the designers - VCA/mixer type gadget
Subject description: a la Buchla 227 or Serge SMX/PAN combo
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Norman Phay wrote:
Thoughts, anyone?

seems you are in need for more VCAs and some mixers and panners? i mean, you could use your modulars modules, couldn't you? not offending, just thinking loud... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You used to be able to order VC stereo mixers from Serge in increments of two inputs. I think that's kind of what he has in mind. Something like this.
Edit: Oh, he did mention the SMX in the post didn't he. Anyway, Fonik's point about using a bunch of separate VCA's, etc. only goes so far I think. It sure is more convenient to have integrated VCA/PAN/SUM capabilities especially if you don't work track by track but do things all at once.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

BananaPlug wrote:
Anyway, Fonik's point about using a bunch of separate VCA's, etc. only goes so far I think. It sure is more convenient to have integrated VCA/PAN/SUM capabilities


I think both arguments are valid. That's why I am using a bunch of separate modules to make my ideal vc pan/fade/mixer, but all integrated behind the same panel. 8 LED drivers, 7 mixers, 4 MFOS dual VCA's, and 4 cv inverters to be exact. Here's(the one on the left) the fake partially populated cardboard version I built just to see If I could squeeze my skinny fingers around the knobs. The leftmost column of knobs and the jacks aligned them with them are the input, output and offset control, the right column and associated jack are the CV input. The inverse of every second CV input is normalled into the next. Each output 2-8 has it's own mixer and plugging in to any output from 1-7 prevents it's output from cascading down to the next mixer/output.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Clever use of normals. Just needs another output bus on the right to make a stereo mix from pairs of input channels.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I never considered making anything stereo. I'm still running my while rig through a big ol' keyboard amp and spending way too much time/money on the modular to look into proper monitors Embarassed
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