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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: sequential pro one style sequencer Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ive been playing with a pro-one ( shamefully the only late 70-80's synthesizer I have been allowed to touch! maybe its because they are afraid I will pull it apart Twisted Evil )

And I really like the sequencer on it, Its a bit like a midi sequencer, you play notes in and you get notes out ( quantized in equal whole steps mind you ) I looked at the service manual and it doesnt show much, is this just a function of the microprocessor circuit? the only thing I can see that relates to it is the swithes that say "Seq" / "Arp" that all connect to the same point!!

has anyone seen any diy circuits that work in this way? I assume it is a digital circuit with volatile memory. This is just curiosity

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, i like also the ProOne arp and sequencer - its easy to use.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

no diy that I know of,

if you want the same type of simple and easy to use cv/gate seq, there is roland csq-100 & 600


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

All of the sequencing functions on the Pro- One are handled by the 8021 processor.

I'm pretty sure that either ETI (under the "Trancendent" banner) or Elektor mag did a 1024 step digital sequencer once...

I'll have a dig around the attic and see what info I have.

Andy.

[EDIT]...

... Meanwhile, 45 mins later...

Here ya go, both the ETI and Elektor Sequencer details, sorry about the quality, but that's all I have.

Could be an interesting project though Shocked


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

amazing, thanks , very interesting. Not the same but just as interesting. I suppose something like this would be achieved very easily ( and less parts! ) with a stamp, PIC or AVR.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm actually working on a digital sequencer for my modular using a PIC and the D/A conversion section from the TB-303. Fairly low parts count as far as analog sequencers go, but the coding is definitely not for the faint of heart. Getting a simple sequencer program up and running wasn't much work, but implementing MIDI I/O and getting sync working has been a little frustrating.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I'm actually working on a digital sequencer for my modular using a PIC and the D/A conversion section from the TB-303.


Very Happy Cool, I'd be interested in seeing that.

I started designing one ages ago (not a PIC one though - my PIC knowledge is rubbish), and I posted it on here.

but to be honest it wasn't good.. (I've attached a basic block diagram of my idea)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

crazeydazey wrote:
Cool, I'd be interested in seeing that.


I've still got a little more work to do before it's ready for show and tell, but I'll definitely post something once it's done. My goal is to cram a 16 step sequencer into a 2u Fraq panel. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'd like to see the MIDI Clock to pulse clock conversion. That'd be a cool clock module on its own.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

EdisonRex wrote:
I'd like to see the MIDI Clock to pulse clock conversion. That'd be a cool clock module on its own.


I was just going to use something along the lines of this
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, yeah, or this too.

I keep wondering if there's an easier way to mask the clock signals (FCool from the stream, and divide them. hmm. Like with a register or something.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah, I've also found this, bit you can't control the midi channel, but I suppose if anyone knows a bit of PIC programming, they could figure something out by looking at the code...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And then I realise in the middle of this I have one of these things and I owe myself a head-desk-slam because look at that clock output. Doh!

We now return to the original topic.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

EdisonRex wrote:
And then I realise in the middle of this I have one of these things and I owe myself a head-desk-slam because look at that clock output. Doh!


Laughing Laughing Laughing

Thats a nice little toy you've got there, I've tried bidding a few times for one of these when they come up on Ebay, but keep getting outbid.. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you got programming skills for a pic, you should try to start from MIOS.
That way all the midi coding is already done for you, you should be able to focus on programming the app itself.
There are midi functions available in assembler or c
Check this:
http://ucapps.de/mios_fun.html
http://ucapps.de/mios_c.html
http://www.midibox.org/forum/forums.html?topic=5080.0
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shocked it all looks chinese to me, and the best bit is.. I am a software developer, that what I do for a living, but I can't get my head around this stuff at all, I wish I could. Crying or Very sad

why can't someone invent a programmer that accepts VB.net
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

filterstein wrote:
If you got programming skills for a pic, you should try to start from MIOS.
That way all the midi coding is already done for you, you should be able to focus on programming the app itself.
There are midi functions available in assembler or c

I've used MIOS in the past (I've built a couple of MidiBox SIDs), but I hate coding in assembly language and I'm not a fan of the C implementation they use.

I currently use a commercial C compiler called mikroC, which is way easier to understand than assembly. On top of it all, I like the challenge of figuring it all out on my own. You've got to learn somewhere.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it would be cool if there was a PIC forum on this site, to share PIC circuits and code (music related obviously, not really intrested in making flashing LED circuits)

any chance moderators...???
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

crazeydazey wrote:
any chance moderators...???


Sure, chances always Very Happy

Besides PICs some people seem to work with AVR and maybe an occasional ARM topic, all in one "embedded controller" forum maybe? As a part of DIY I guess?

Can I have your opinions please Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

cool Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
crazeydazey wrote:
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Sure, chances always Very Happy

Besides PICs some people seem to work with AVR and maybe an occasional ARM topic, all in one "embedded controller" forum maybe? As a part of DIY I guess?

Can I have your opinions please Very Happy


I could definitely dig a micro-based projects forum (with AVR, PIC, ARM divisions prolly). I've got an AVR STK-500 that I really have to fire up and fiddle with one of these days. Even if you just use a micro to replace a handful of discrete logic on a board, it can definitely make your SDIY life a lot easier.

Tim (STK-500 sitting in a box for a year) Servo
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Tim Servo wrote:
I've got an AVR STK-500 that I really have to fire up and fiddle with one of these days.

Dev boards are one of the reasons I really enjoy messing with microcontrollers. I've got a board that has just about every standard piece of digital circuitry you could want. It makes trying out new ideas really easy, and in most cases I don't even have to get near a breadboard to test my circuits.

http://www.mikroe.com/en/tools/easypic3/
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy ooooooh want one Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is anything happening with new forum???

I like Blue Hells Idea "Embedded Controller" and no one else has objected..

Could it be the one???
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

crazeydazey wrote:
Is anything happening with new forum???

I like Blue Hells Idea "Embedded Controller" and no one else has objected..

Could it be the one???


I'm seeing some responses, but only by a handful of people. This way I see no justification for a new forum really - am I wrong?

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