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Clack

Joined: Aug 08, 2005 Posts: 438 Location: Walthamstow - london
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:44 am Post subject:
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Ive been playing with a pro-one ( shamefully the only late 70-80's synthesizer I have been allowed to touch! maybe its because they are afraid I will pull it apart )
And I really like the sequencer on it, Its a bit like a midi sequencer, you play notes in and you get notes out ( quantized in equal whole steps mind you ) I looked at the service manual and it doesnt show much, is this just a function of the microprocessor circuit? the only thing I can see that relates to it is the swithes that say "Seq" / "Arp" that all connect to the same point!!
has anyone seen any diy circuits that work in this way? I assume it is a digital circuit with volatile memory. This is just curiosity _________________ Clacktronics.co.uk |
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intercorni
Joined: Jun 04, 2007 Posts: 69 Location: hamburg
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:26 am Post subject:
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| Yes, i like also the ProOne arp and sequencer - its easy to use. |
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synth_ollie

Joined: Sep 11, 2006 Posts: 149 Location: sweden
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:10 am Post subject:
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no diy that I know of,
if you want the same type of simple and easy to use cv/gate seq, there is roland csq-100 & 600
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Broadwave

Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 347 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:13 am Post subject:
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All of the sequencing functions on the Pro- One are handled by the 8021 processor.
I'm pretty sure that either ETI (under the "Trancendent" banner) or Elektor mag did a 1024 step digital sequencer once...
I'll have a dig around the attic and see what info I have.
Andy.
[EDIT]...
... Meanwhile, 45 mins later...
Here ya go, both the ETI and Elektor Sequencer details, sorry about the quality, but that's all I have.
Could be an interesting project though
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Clack

Joined: Aug 08, 2005 Posts: 438 Location: Walthamstow - london
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject:
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amazing, thanks , very interesting. Not the same but just as interesting. I suppose something like this would be achieved very easily ( and less parts! ) with a stamp, PIC or AVR. _________________ Clacktronics.co.uk |
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amos_joseph

Joined: May 09, 2005 Posts: 50 Location: Lincoln, NE
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject:
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| I'm actually working on a digital sequencer for my modular using a PIC and the D/A conversion section from the TB-303. Fairly low parts count as far as analog sequencers go, but the coding is definitely not for the faint of heart. Getting a simple sequencer program up and running wasn't much work, but implementing MIDI I/O and getting sync working has been a little frustrating. |
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crazeydazey

Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 303 Location: England
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amos_joseph

Joined: May 09, 2005 Posts: 50 Location: Lincoln, NE
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:49 am Post subject:
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| crazeydazey wrote: | | Cool, I'd be interested in seeing that. |
I've still got a little more work to do before it's ready for show and tell, but I'll definitely post something once it's done. My goal is to cram a 16 step sequencer into a 2u Fraq panel.  |
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EdisonRex
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Joined: Mar 07, 2007 Posts: 4579 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:56 am Post subject:
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I'd like to see the MIDI Clock to pulse clock conversion. That'd be a cool clock module on its own. _________________ Garret: It's so retro.
EGM: What does retro mean to you?
Parker: Like, old and outdated.
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crazeydazey

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:03 am Post subject:
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| EdisonRex wrote: | | I'd like to see the MIDI Clock to pulse clock conversion. That'd be a cool clock module on its own. |
I was just going to use something along the lines of this |
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EdisonRex
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:24 am Post subject:
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Well, yeah, or this too.
I keep wondering if there's an easier way to mask the clock signals (F from the stream, and divide them. hmm. Like with a register or something. _________________ Garret: It's so retro.
EGM: What does retro mean to you?
Parker: Like, old and outdated.
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crazeydazey

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:34 am Post subject:
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| yeah, I've also found this, bit you can't control the midi channel, but I suppose if anyone knows a bit of PIC programming, they could figure something out by looking at the code... |
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EdisonRex
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:55 am Post subject:
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And then I realise in the middle of this I have one of these things and I owe myself a head-desk-slam because look at that clock output. Doh!
We now return to the original topic. _________________ Garret: It's so retro.
EGM: What does retro mean to you?
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crazeydazey

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:56 am Post subject:
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| EdisonRex wrote: | And then I realise in the middle of this I have one of these things and I owe myself a head-desk-slam because look at that clock output. Doh!
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Thats a nice little toy you've got there, I've tried bidding a few times for one of these when they come up on Ebay, but keep getting outbid..  |
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filterstein
Joined: Mar 17, 2007 Posts: 42 Location: The Netherlands
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crazeydazey

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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:13 am Post subject:
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it all looks chinese to me, and the best bit is.. I am a software developer, that what I do for a living, but I can't get my head around this stuff at all, I wish I could.
why can't someone invent a programmer that accepts VB.net |
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amos_joseph

Joined: May 09, 2005 Posts: 50 Location: Lincoln, NE
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:36 am Post subject:
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| filterstein wrote: | If you got programming skills for a pic, you should try to start from MIOS.
That way all the midi coding is already done for you, you should be able to focus on programming the app itself.
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I've used MIOS in the past (I've built a couple of MidiBox SIDs), but I hate coding in assembly language and I'm not a fan of the C implementation they use.
I currently use a commercial C compiler called mikroC, which is way easier to understand than assembly. On top of it all, I like the challenge of figuring it all out on my own. You've got to learn somewhere. |
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crazeydazey

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:59 am Post subject:
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it would be cool if there was a PIC forum on this site, to share PIC circuits and code (music related obviously, not really intrested in making flashing LED circuits)
any chance moderators...??? |
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blue hell
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:08 am Post subject:
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| crazeydazey wrote: | | any chance moderators...??? |
Sure, chances always
Besides PICs some people seem to work with AVR and maybe an occasional ARM topic, all in one "embedded controller" forum maybe? As a part of DIY I guess?
Can I have your opinions please  _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
9 3 4 .. erm .. not 13 then? .. hmm, ah eight! .. yeah yeah as in 8647 .. 47 is an 88 .. pwew .. numbles! |
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crazeydazey

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:38 am Post subject:
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Tim Servo

Joined: Jul 16, 2006 Posts: 924 Location: Silicon Valley
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:25 am Post subject:
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| Blue Hell wrote: | | crazeydazey wrote: | | any chance moderators...??? |
Sure, chances always
Besides PICs some people seem to work with AVR and maybe an occasional ARM topic, all in one "embedded controller" forum maybe? As a part of DIY I guess?
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I could definitely dig a micro-based projects forum (with AVR, PIC, ARM divisions prolly). I've got an AVR STK-500 that I really have to fire up and fiddle with one of these days. Even if you just use a micro to replace a handful of discrete logic on a board, it can definitely make your SDIY life a lot easier.
Tim (STK-500 sitting in a box for a year) Servo |
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amos_joseph

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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:26 am Post subject:
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| Tim Servo wrote: | | I've got an AVR STK-500 that I really have to fire up and fiddle with one of these days. |
Dev boards are one of the reasons I really enjoy messing with microcontrollers. I've got a board that has just about every standard piece of digital circuitry you could want. It makes trying out new ideas really easy, and in most cases I don't even have to get near a breadboard to test my circuits.
http://www.mikroe.com/en/tools/easypic3/ |
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crazeydazey

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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:56 am Post subject:
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ooooooh want one  |
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crazeydazey

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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:53 am Post subject:
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Is anything happening with new forum???
I like Blue Hells Idea "Embedded Controller" and no one else has objected..
Could it be the one??? |
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blue hell
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject:
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| crazeydazey wrote: | Is anything happening with new forum???
I like Blue Hells Idea "Embedded Controller" and no one else has objected..
Could it be the one??? |
I'm seeing some responses, but only by a handful of people. This way I see no justification for a new forum really - am I wrong? _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
9 3 4 .. erm .. not 13 then? .. hmm, ah eight! .. yeah yeah as in 8647 .. 47 is an 88 .. pwew .. numbles! |
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