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paugui
Joined: Jun 28, 2008 Posts: 555 Location: Marinha Grande, Portugal / Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:53 am Post subject:
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Hi
I was wondering if the analog section of the Evolver is the same as the Prophet 08 itself, so that, if I get a PolyEvolver Rack and a PolyEvolver Keyboard, I would get exactly the same sounds I would out of a Prophet 08 with the same poly, if I don't use the digital section?
Or are there quite some differences between the two in analog terms?
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alanzo
Joined: Jan 14, 2009 Posts: 13 Location: Burlington, VT
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:26 pm Post subject:
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wow. No one has responded to this and it's been almost a year. This forum sucks. The analog OSCs, filters, and envelopes are all very similar. But on the Evolver, the analog OSCs have this annoying glide 'popping' where even if glide is at 0, you can still hear it. If the Prophet was as useful in the studio as the poly evolver, I'd have one. But because the P08 is mono-timbral (for the most part), I ahve a Poly Evolver. |
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EdisonRex
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Joined: Mar 07, 2007 Posts: 4579 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:06 am Post subject:
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Thanks for your contribution. I don't believe any of the rest of us PEK owners had enough exposure to the P08 to give a qualified comment. In my case I bought a PEK fairly soon after they came out, and although I tried a P08 briefly at a music shop, I couldn't make any real comparisons, other than that I liked the PEK better.
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userwave
Joined: Apr 25, 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:33 am Post subject:
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i have a PEK , i did own a prophet 08 for a while, the PEK can pretty much make every sound the p08 can do and beyond X1000
I am a wavetable fan, the PEK is like have a P08 and a Prophet VS in one machine,
how can ya go wrong! |
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jksuperstar
Joined: Aug 20, 2004 Posts: 2503 Location: Denver
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:36 am Post subject:
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I have a desktop evolver, but no P'08. As far as I can tell, the Prophet is just a boiled down version for analog purists. Oscillators, Filters, and Envelopes are all identical as far as I can tell, but the evolver adds the digital oscillators, sequencing, and tunable delay elements. Other than the purist view, I see the Prophet as a downgrade. However, there may be a few nitch sounds the prophet is capable of that the evolver isn't, I don't know. |
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Antimon
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:01 am Post subject:
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jksuperstar wrote: | I have a desktop evolver, but no P'08. As far as I can tell, the Prophet is just a boiled down version for analog purists. Oscillators, Filters, and Envelopes are all identical as far as I can tell, but the evolver adds the digital oscillators, sequencing, and tunable delay elements. Other than the purist view, I see the Prophet as a downgrade. However, there may be a few nitch sounds the prophet is capable of that the evolver isn't, I don't know. |
There is the eight voice polyphony. I started with a desktop mono evolver, and later managed to get hold of a PolyEvolver Key - the polyphony possibilities there does make a difference, even with only four voices. Being a tad cheaper than the PEK, I'd say it might be of interest if you're a keyboard player rather than a knob tweaker.
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jksuperstar
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:47 pm Post subject:
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Good point. |
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paugui
Joined: Jun 28, 2008 Posts: 555 Location: Marinha Grande, Portugal / Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:46 am Post subject:
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There is one thing that makes me wonder...
On the PEK we have 4 voices with 4 oscillators and 2 analog filters, right? This gives 8 analog oscillators, 8 digital oscillators and 8 analog filters.
On the P'08 we have 8 voices with 2 oscillators and 1 analog filter. This means we have the same number of oscillators and filters we have on the PEK.
Since half of PEK's oscillators are digital instead of analog, shouldn't the PEK be cheaper than the P'08, at least in terms of production costs?
Thanks in advance,
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Antimon
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject:
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The PEK is more advanced in the way you can route stuff. It is essentially four monophonic synths in one package, and you can control all aspects of each as if they were separate entities, while you can still group them together (in anyway you want - 2 + 1 + 1 or 3 + 1 or 4 or other combinations) to make up polyphonic synths. They also have individual triple delay lines, high pass filters 4x sequencers and distortion, which I don't think exist on the Prophet. The only functional that you might miss on the PEK is individual audio inputs for each voice (i.e. 8 inputs instead of 2). You have individual outputs for each voice (8 outputs in addition to the main stereo output).
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