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Patched out version as a start for a module synth?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:57 am    Post subject: Patched out version as a start for a module synth? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi!

I'm planning to build my first Sound Lab Mini Synth as soon as my paycheck arrives and I have some questions.

I want a ADSR so I'm going for the the patched out version of the synth and then buy a ADSR also. That would work, right? I thought that maybe this could be the start of a bigger module project.

This brings me to the next question. If I'm planning a bigger module synth, how am I going to do with the power supply? If I use banan jacks must every module share ground or something?

I also planned to buy a sequencer to control it but I would like to have a keyboard too. I don't want to build my own, it seems difficult. (Is it?) All I have at home is a Roland JUno 6 that don't have any CV out. Can I mod it somehow so I can use it to control my synth?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hm.

Try another one:

If I'm planning to build two soundlabs and in the future add more mudules how am I going to do with the osc sync? If I end up with lets say 6 VCO's, four of them comes from the soundlabs and I want to be able to sync all of them them together in different ways, how do I do that?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

about the juno, yeah get a midi-to-CV converter. EFM has some kits and PAIA also.

about your other question, if you use single conductor patch-points, you would need a common reference to connect between machines.

you could just power your SL and any modules with the same supply, then you wouldnt have to worry about compatibility so much... but i think [not sure] ray has addressed this himself on his site about gates and CVs from the greater voltages of his modular circuits.

to sync oscillators connect an output of one to the 'sync in' of another. pretty simple
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

topp wrote:
about the juno, yeah get a midi-to-CV converter. EFM has some kits and PAIA also.

about your other question, if you use single conductor patch-points, you would need a common reference to connect between machines.

you could just power your SL and any modules with the same supply, then you wouldnt have to worry about compatibility so much... but i think [not sure] ray has addressed this himself on his site about gates and CVs from the greater voltages of his modular circuits.

to sync oscillators connect an output of one to the 'sync in' of another. pretty simple


My Juno has no midi at all. And I like it that way =)

And I think that I have figured the power supply problem out.

So it's just to add sync in jacks on the SL's VCO's and I'm good to go. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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My Juno has no midi at all. And I like it that way =)
why do you like it that way?

duuuh. oh. hm well i have never seen a schematic or not real familiar with the juno [is it a 106?] the oscillators are integrated and 'digitally controlled' right? so they do their own DA conversion or.. im just guessing. but if you study the schematic i guess you will be able to see. hmm i will look for it when i get more time.

the soundlab doesnt have osc sync on the vco? i thought it did. i think there was a little talk about what it was supposed to work like in this branch of the forum.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

a quick search tells me that the 106 was the first juno with midi, and that the "DCO"s are indeed digital, clock [not current] derived functions.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

topp wrote:
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My Juno has no midi at all. And I like it that way =)
why do you like it that way?

duuuh. oh. hm well i have never seen a schematic or not real familiar with the juno [is it a 106?] the oscillators are integrated and 'digitally controlled' right? so they do their own DA conversion or.. im just guessing. but if you study the schematic i guess you will be able to see. hmm i will look for it when i get more time.

the soundlab doesnt have osc sync on the vco? i thought it did. i think there was a little talk about what it was supposed to work like in this branch of the forum.


It was more of a joke really. Midi is useful, but my juno still doesn't have it. It's a 6, not 106. But the osc's are digitally controlled as you say. I'll look for the shcematic. Or maybe I just make Ray's Single Bus Keyboard. I found a broken keyboard on the lokal junkyard that I can use.

And the osundlab has sync on the vco but it's not patched out. What I ment was to replace the switch with jacks.
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