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chresan
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| pOisK wrote: | Chresan > Could we hope something like the Mutator for NM1 ?
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I have looked at the manual and I think this is a non trivial feature to implement, so I will not put it on the todo list for our next releases. I am sorry for that but we still have many other essential things to realize. However, we are planning a plugin interface for Nomad. With that I think there is a little chance that someone else might realize this feature as plugin. Altogether - yes I think you can hope, but not in the near-term.
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3phase
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has anybody the nomad working on a mac?
Its opening now on my machine but it cant access the midiports |
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Really nice app! Got it running with my Micromodular without problem in Ubuntu (after installing Sun's Java). Shame though that some GUI elements on many modules are still missing  , for example on the note sequencers. Any chance these things will appear soon?
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chresan
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| Sprak wrote: | | Really nice app! Got it running with my Micromodular without problem in Ubuntu (after installing Sun's Java). |
I know of problems with Ubuntu's java and it's xml parser. Did you experience an xml related exception or was it something different ?
| Quote: | | Shame though that some GUI elements on many modules are still missing , for example on the note sequencers. Any chance these things will appear soon? |
Sure, completing the modules is one of our highest priority tasks. They should be complete in the next release.
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chresan
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| 3phase wrote: | has anybody the nomad working on a mac?
Its opening now on my machine but it cant access the midiports |
- go here http://www.cems.uwe.ac.uk/~lrlang/plumstone/
- download version 1.3
- follow installation instructions: ReadMe1_3.txt
If it doesn't work you should undo the installation.
Christian
PS: Could you post some feedback if the described solution works for you or not ?
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Sprak
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| chresan wrote: | | I know of problems with Ubuntu's java and it's xml parser. Did you experience an xml related exception or was it something different ? |
No XML problems of any sort, and my Ubuntu installation (5.10) is just one day old. The only problems I had was with the default JRE.
| chresan wrote: | | Sure, completing the modules is one of our highest priority tasks. They should be complete in the next release. |
Great! Really looking forward to it!
By the way, would you prefer feedback/suggestions here or on the sourceforge mailing list?
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chresan
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| Sprak wrote: | | chresan wrote: | | Sure, completing the modules is one of our highest priority tasks. They should be complete in the next release. |
Great! Really looking forward to it!
By the way, would you prefer feedback/suggestions here or on the sourceforge mailing list? |
You can post anything related to nomad in this forum here. Personally I prefer this way, since this forum is better suited for discussions then the sourceforge mailing list.
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eposk
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| I would loveeeeee a mutator for the NM1! Or at least a knob randomizer.. I think if either one of those were in Nomad, it would really set it apart. Keep up the great work, and I will be dreaming of a mutator for the NM1. |
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Mantra
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What was the purpose of this editor? I mean, is there new features that are not existing in the Clavia editor?
Or is it just the same in a different suit?
One thing i really dislike with the editor for Clavia Modular is that you cant save 4 patches into one file but have to load four patches every time.
This is not the case with the G2 and i find it somewhat of a pain in the ass when i began using the old modulars..
Could this be fixed with the new editor? |
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eposk
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| saving four patches into one? You mean like a performance? |
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3phase
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that would be good...
even when it just creates a new folder for all 4 slots in one go and would be able to load such a folder in one go...
maybe the names need to be auto altred..or the within the "perf" folder 4 folders for each slot are created that contain the individual slot patches.
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I will test plumstone later and comment... |
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Hmmm, I tried this at a friends place the other day with his Micro, and they wouldn't talk to each other. The correct midi ports are selected, and when I press connect the little light changes to green, but I can't upload/download patches. Scrolling through patches on the Micro doesn't update the patch in Nomad and upload and download functions don't do anything, which leads me to believe that they're definitely not connected.
Has anyone managed to get their NM or Micro talking to Nomad? None of the posts so far indicate that they've managed to actually edit or see patches on their synth...
Absolutely great work with the editor so far though! |
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X-Electric
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Finally I managed to open it on Solaris 10  Although I forgot this hardcore server I'm playing with now doesn't have a soundcard with gameport, nor any USB connections. Too bad I can't try it with my Micro 
I like the real time cable rendering when dragging them from module to module - cool |
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chresan
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| Afro88 wrote: | | Hmmm, I tried this at a friends place the other day with his Micro, and they wouldn't talk to each other. ... |
Can you post me the log file 'nomad.log', with that I might be able to see what is going wrong.
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mattp
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I would just settle for variations and performances if they were possible.
And a way to load patches using the command line.
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Repeatpeak
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| Quote: | What was the purpose of this editor? I mean, is there new features that are not existing in the Clavia editor?
Or is it just the same in a different suit? |
I second this question. Is the main purpose to have a multi platform editor or are there any advantages for PC users at this point to use this editor instead of Clavia's?
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chresan
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| Repeatpeak wrote: |
I second this question. Is the main purpose to have a multi platform editor or are there any advantages for PC users at this point to use this editor instead of Clavia's?
Philip |
At the moment Clavia's editor is superior to Nomad, so the only advantage is to have a (partly) working editor on other platforms. Once we have achieved the functionality of Clavia's editor we will add some further features to increase usability. I assume it requires another year of development until this state is reached.
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| Seems exciting...Studio Carl will become a major hit with this baby |
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boblang99
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject:
Plumstone plug in for Mac
Subject description: Plumstone moved to a new home |
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| The previous web address for Plumstone is no longer valid. Plumstone's new home is http://www.mandolane.co.uk/ |
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Mantra
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Well i really wish that when you get the editor stable you will add a function that can save one sound for slot A, B, C, D into one file, just as its possible to do with G2!
When im switching between different projects its time consuming to manually load each Slot... would be much quicker to just load one file for the whole project.
I cant think that it would be very hard to program such a feature, what does developer say? |
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chresan
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| Mantra wrote: | | Well i really wish that when you get the editor stable you will add a function that can save one sound for slot A, B, C, D into one file, just as its possible to do with G2! |
Generally this would be easy to implement, but the implementation might bring some problems:
Solution 1: the 4 patches are stored in one file - then Clavias editor won't be able to open the file. The best way would be just to put the patches in a zip-file so they can be extracted with winzip or similar tools.
Solution 2: each of the 4 patches saved in it's own .pch file + an additional patch-list file containing the filename's of these patches and the association with the slots. This would work, but you have 5 files to handle. When you change the filename of one of these files the patch-list must be modified too.
Personally I don't like any of the solutions, but I understand this feature would be useful to you. Well, since I have already thought of a container format (Solution 1) to store variations (different parameter settings) of a patch I will consider to support storing multiple patches + the slot mapping in the container file.
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sonicacid
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject:
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Hi,
After buying some new midi cables and properly configuring my interface I have managed to get my Nord Micro Modular working with Nomad 0.2.1 on WinXp. It is much more stable than the Clavia Editor and connects successfully almost everytime. The only problems I'm having are:
1.) Unable to delete cables or modules at this stage.
2.) Slight delay in GUI midi triggered response times.
If there is anything I need to do specially to delete cables or modules, please let me know, cheers SoniC |
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:07 am Post subject:
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| sonicacid wrote: | Hi,
After buying some new midi cables and properly configuring my interface I have managed to get my Nord Micro Modular working with Nomad 0.2.1 on WinXp. It is much more stable than the Clavia Editor and connects successfully almost everytime. The only problems I'm having are:
1.) Unable to delete cables or modules at this stage.
2.) Slight delay in GUI midi triggered response times.
If there is anything I need to do specially to delete cables or modules, please let me know, cheers SoniC |
1. To delete on a module right-click on it and choose "Delete Module" in the popup menu. To delete cables right-click on the connector and choose "Disconnect" (removes each connected cable) or "Break" (removes the cable towards the output connector if present). You can also double click on a connector and drag the cables to nowhere (or to another connector). I have seen cases where the popup menu does not appear on windows xp, if this is the case for you you have to wait until the next release of Nomad. Would you please let me know if you see the popup menu or not ?
2. Gui response time is a serious problem (also memory consumption). I am aware of it and spend much time in finding ways to improve it. Beside that next version of Java (1.6) should bring advantages in rendering time. And in the future it will be possible to enable the opengl- or directDraw/direct3D pipelines for java applications, this will bring further advantages. I am sorry, but for now I can only give you some hope that the situation will become better.
Christian
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:38 am Post subject:
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Subject description: Deleting modules, cables |
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Hi Christian,
Thanks for the quick reply. Double clicking on the connecter works for deleting cables, but it leaves some connections still in cache and you have to move things around for them to disappear. Right clicking on cables/modules doesn't produce any pop-up window. Also modules can't be deleted by clicking on them and pressing delete or backspace and the only way modules can be selected is if u click and drag the window near a module onto a module. You can't actually click directly onto the module itself to select the module. I also have a legit copy of WinXP Pro and all the latest JAVA updates. I hope this helps.
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chresan
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:41 am Post subject:
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| sonicacid wrote: | Hi Christian,
Thanks for the quick reply. Double clicking on the connecter works for deleting cables, but it leaves some connections still in cache and you have to move things around for them to disappear. Right clicking on cables/modules doesn't produce any pop-up window. Also modules can't be deleted by clicking on them and pressing delete or backspace and the only way modules can be selected is if u click and drag the window near a module onto a module. You can't actually click directly onto the module itself to select the module. I also have a legit copy of WinXP Pro and all the latest JAVA updates. I hope this helps.
Cheers,
SoniC |
Hi Sonic,
first I want to thank you for the feedback. The development of Nomad is still in early stages, and the current release was meant for people who can not use Clavias editor in their environment (for example linux users) and to show that the nmedit project is still active. I hope this explains the lack of quality in the current release. At the moment I still recommend using Clavias editor. Concerning Nomad you should try the upcoming releases and switch when you see advantages over clavias editor and an adequate level of quality. The issues you mentioned are already on the todo list for the next release (planned for december/january) and will definately be corrected by then. I will announce further releases in this forum and if you are not too disappointed you might want to try Nomad out again.
Sincerely,
Christian
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