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Stanley Pain
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 Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:35 am Post subject:
Supercollider NOOB faq
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1. What do i need to start supercolliding on my evilest of wintel machines?
2. i've never done any text based stuff, apart from csound back in the day (i wrote a bars worth of monophonic motif, thought it was neat but lack of realtime action/building a GUI concerned me so i gave up)
3. i'm all for coding music, providing it eventually works in realtime. do i have to code the GUI as well?
4. how easy is it to find patches/stuff to reverse engineer?
5. SILVANO TOGNIERI LIVES! |
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dewdrop_world
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| Stanley Pain wrote: | | 1. What do i need to start supercolliding on my evilest of wintel machines? |
Go here: http://sonenvir.at/downloads/sc3/sc3-win/
| Stanley Pain wrote: | | 2. i've never done any text based stuff, apart from csound back in the day (i wrote a bars worth of monophonic motif, thought it was neat but lack of realtime action/building a GUI concerned me so i gave up) |
SuperCollider is way different from csound, much more interactive. No score is needed in SuperCollider, and sequencing and synthesis are all done real time. (There is a non real time mode for the synthesis engine that does use a score, but that isn't the primary work flow.) For sequencing, you run routines or event streams on a clock, usually TempoClock because you can (surprise!) change its tempo.
| Stanley Pain wrote: | | 3. i'm all for coding music, providing it eventually works in realtime. do i have to code the GUI as well? |
SuperCollider is designed for real time use. My web site (link below) has some audio clips that were done entirely in SuperCollider, all live, no editing.
For GUI design, you'll want to look closely at the SwingOSC classes. SwingOSC is the only GUI framework supported in Windows, as far as I know. There is no standard GUI layout, so you will have to design your own.
| Stanley Pain wrote: | | 4. how easy is it to find patches/stuff to reverse engineer? |
Examples can be sometimes hard to find. There are lot of simple examples in the help files. Also some examples on the swiki, http://swiki.hfbk-hamburg.de:8888/MusicTechnology/6 . I've posted some more complex examples, with commentary, on my web site, the tutorials page http://www.dewdrop-world.net/sc3/tutorials/forums.html -- note that the GUI code is for Mac, I haven't checked to see if all of it is translatable to SwingOSC. I also have links to some tutorials on that page.
| Stanley Pain wrote: | | 5. SILVANO TOGNIERI LIVES! |
Well, he must not really exist because he doesn't really turn up on Google...  (only 1 entry, not really enough to count)
hjh
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Stanley Pain
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thanks dewdrop_world, very very helpful post.
re: silvano tognieri, he was an "outsider musician" (wiki that) whose work i loved, but he passed away a few days ago. he lived in barga in Italy and is a legend.
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Stanley Pain
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he was a troubled soul and never fulfilled his potential to blow away the music industry as we know it...
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seraph
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| Stanley Pain wrote: |
he was a troubled soul and never fulfilled his potential to blow away the music industry as we know it... |
 http://www.barganews.com/daily/silvano-togneri-outsider-musician/
I don't know about you guys but I can even understand what he says. he didn't lived very far away from where I live.
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hey hjh!
 to electro-music.com 
Great to have you here, and great website too 
Go have a look folks!
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dewdrop_world
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| v-un-v wrote: | hey hjh!
to electro-music.com
Great to have you here, and great website too
Go have a look folks! |
Thanks!
I see you're from Birmingham. Did you make it out to the SuperCollider symposium? It was a blast. Had my first ever balti on Saturday night.
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