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mono-poly

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:21 am Post subject:
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Thanks for the link to the pdf.
I dunno why the SDS3 sounds so damn good.
I had a lot of drummachine;s 808.909.c78,syncussion,tama etc etc
But nothing had that damn good sound of the SDS 3! |
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richardc64

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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject:
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ickystay wrote: | You can see the twisted wires of the LM301 noise source (I always wondered about that on the schematic). |
!!! I haven't seen anything like that in ages! (Since I lost interest in shortwave.) It's called a gimmick capacitor, fairly common in high frequency R.F. circuits. Here it's being used as the opamp compensation. Twisting the wires tighter or looser increases or decreases the capacitance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimmick_capacitor |
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para
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject:
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if someone does decide to make some boards i'd be in for a few
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mono-poly

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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:24 am Post subject:
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Yeah i would get like 8 boards to.
Damn i never should have sold this machine ever.
This is the most regreted thing i ever sold. |
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CJ Miller

Joined: Jan 07, 2007 Posts: 368 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:29 am Post subject:
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para wrote: | if someone does decide to make some boards i'd be in for a few
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Me too! Me too! I love analog drums and percussion of various sorts, and these sound great. I'd be down for several PCBs if any existed. |
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rubendelacosta
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject:
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Must.......have..........argh |
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elektro80
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject:
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I have no time to invest in recreation of the SDS-3 right now, but I would definitively grab some PCBs and buy in on a group buy for the parts and stuff.
The SDS-3 was/is simply perfect. 8 channels of SDS-3 madness is just what the doctor ordered. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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mono-poly

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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:08 am Post subject:
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Come on you freaks!  |
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dave_b

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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:52 am Post subject:
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Is there a consensus regarding the sound of the SDS3 vs. the SDSV? The SDS3 looks like it could be built less expensively. |
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mono-poly

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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:51 am Post subject:
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The SDS-3 did blow away my SDS-V
But i think people in the 80's tought it sounded to synthetic. |
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para
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject:
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i was thinking single or dual modules not a full eight. i don't really want eight. i was thinking 3 or 4. probably end up doing stripboards if pcb's aren't made, but i'm in no rush.
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elektro80
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject:
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mono-poly wrote: |
But i think people in the 80's tought it sounded to synthetic. |
Simmons discontuned a lot of gear really fast. Obviously the silly analogue stuff had to go. Most of the Simmons products are collectible, but few are as musical, useful and fun as the SDS-3. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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mono-poly

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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject:
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Is the SDS3 love all gone?
Someone should stand up and do that pcb design  |
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para
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject:
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yeah i was just thinking about this earler today. i was under the impression that the "channel 5" section of this was actually a mixer. i didn't bother really looking at it before. |
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mono-poly

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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject:
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There are 4 drum voices and a modulationbus witch you can route to the drum voices.
I would be intersted in single voice prints from the drum channels.
Still a bit disapointed here that none of the freaks jumped in yet.
Because this is the only device i regret selling in the past the most. |
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:35 am Post subject:
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Should I do a stripboard version?
I'll get around to it one day!
Don't hold your breath though!  _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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elektro80
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:45 am Post subject:
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The thing about the SDS3 is that you might want to have trillions of these. A PCB design, possibly with more synth channels, is probably the best approach. That said, it would probably be smart to have some cunning tronics head to look over the parts list and figure out if the cloned SDS3 should be upgraded/updated/redesigned in order to be cheap and easy to build. Still, the sound of the original SDS3 is really something. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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mono-poly

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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:27 am Post subject:
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IMHO a synth channel on a card would work out the best.
The modulation part could be done by other modules in your modular rig.
And you could easy add another synth channel in future. |
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bubblechamber

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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject:
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i've got some free time coming up, i'll take a shot at laying out the PCB.
As for the sound of the original, here are a few thoughts after looking over the service material:
1. metal can 3080s
2. single sided PCB
3. hand drawn layout with few right angles and much thicker lines than we use now.
that, plus a great design.... |
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mono-poly

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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject:
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Hey Bubbl great man!
Maybe we can do a groupbuy ca3080's? |
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mono-poly

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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject:
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I can get metalcan ca3080's for $6 each.
So i would love to see a design with just the old parts  |
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bubblechamber

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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject:
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me too. i'm kind of a stickler for those types of things.
i'd be in for 5 or 6 metal 3080s regardless of anything else |
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mono-poly

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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:01 am Post subject:
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Maybe we should use the IC version of the ca3080 instead of the metalcan.
It shouldn;t really matter in sound.
Honkongsuperseller sells them on ebay but i am to frighten to buy them. |
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bdu
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:26 am Post subject:
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mono-poly wrote: | Maybe we should use the IC version of the ca3080 instead of the metalcan.
It shouldn;t really matter in sound.
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That would be my take on the matter... |
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bubblechamber

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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:52 am Post subject:
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i could lay it out to take both. whether or not the chip versions of the 3080 sound the same as the can version is probably about as a productive a topic as the mac/pc debate. |
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