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Nord3 Problems?
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rodrigo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Darman---

I contacted Clavia explaining the situation. They said there wasn't any problem with the manufacturing process, and the proof was that many pros tour with the NL3 and don't have problems, but there's a few of us in this forum with the same problem.

I believe the NL3 depends too much on voltage stability and kind of wear out and break down if you expose it for a long period of time.

Anyway, the guy at Clavia contacted the tech guy and they worked out a solution that didn't cost me 900, but 400. I don't know exactly what was it but I have my synth back and I'm a happy camper.
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darman



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi! Thanks for reply!!! Smile You are probably from USA? It costs you 400$? Did they tell you what was wrong? I have that problems on every second gig... Sad
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rodrigo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm from Mexico, but I sent my NL3 to Dallas for service. I had the same problem as you, and while I was gigging it drove me crazy. I decided to wait until the keyboard stopped working completely.

One day at soundcheck prior to a concert, it died. That's when I sent it in for repair and got a replacement. The wait times for parts were crazy (3-4 months for a part).

At the time, the US distributor for Clavia changed twice. And a couple of times, they sent broken replacement main boards. So they were driving me AND the repair guy crazy. He tried to replace damaged components, but some of them are manufacturer specific, so he had to wait.

Eventually they got everything sorted out, and a year later I got my keyboard back. Now I'm not taking it on a gig again. I got two voltage regulators, star grounding and an independent mains supply for my studio. Not taking any chances...

Good luck with your NL3. Maybe if you send it for repair before it's completely busted, it'll be an easier fix...
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darman



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for your answer!! I wish you a god job with your NL3 and I hope my will be fine soon or maybe I would just sell it. I think guys in Studio doesnt have that kind of problems. Because, when I play it at home there is no problems with turning on and off.

Thank you and have fun with nord monster! Wink
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Enzymo



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:13 pm    Post subject:  NordLead 3 Problems Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi friends,

I had the same Problem two years ago. I called one guy of the nord support Germany and answerd that the reason of the rebooting is the bad power support. Especially in case of undervoltage (he told me about 170/180 volt) the NL3 turns off and on. The only way I could solve the problem: I´ve bought a Voltage Regulator (Power Regulator), not one of the cheap 35,- € parts, no, these things are really expensive.
I bought the Furman AR-2306. Since I bought this Regulator, I haven´t had any Powerproblem ever. When we have Gigs in Gyms or other Halls where you find bad power supply (bad input voltage or extremely staggering) the Furman keeps the output of 230 V, perfect for my NL3.
It accepts input voltages over a wide AC voltage range (lower and higher) and convert them to a steady, stable output at the diresred (230v) standard voltage. The price-difference is (I was told) that the Furman (or other brands) react much faster that the cheap supermarket parts.
I hope I helps.
Greetings

Helmuth Idea
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darman



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the answer! I wasnt so patient, so I allready sold mine and bought NL2x. Smile NL2x doesnt have this problems...
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Wout Blommers



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And welcome Enzymo


Wout
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HB3



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mine does this too. I leave it on overnight, and when I come in, the Nord's rebooted. I should start powering it down.
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NordGas



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello, I have terrible gas for the NL3!

I was just about to bid for one, when my research led me to this thread, so I'm sorry to drag this issue up again.

Would I be right in thinking:
The NL3 has a sensitive power supply that can be slowly damaged by under voltage conditions?
And that once this starts happening other parts of the synth could be damaged as well?
It appears that the power supply can be replaced/repaired but the main boards can not?

If this is the case, I can't possibly drop $1500 on a synth like that, which is a shame because it is the only one with the unbelievable interface, 4 slots and aftertouch... Sad
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HB3



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Are they really 1500? Australian dollars? What does that translate into USD?

Beyond the occasional unintended reboot if I keep it on for extended periods, I'm not having any problems with mine, and I've had it since 2002 or so. I can feel the power supply heating up a bit, so I just switch it off rather than keep it on for twelve hours or so. I have other keyboards, like the Moog LP and Taurus 3, that I keep on continuously. So no, I don't run the NL3 like that, but otherwise, it's still quite functional.
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NordGas



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

HB3 wrote:
Are they really 1500? Australian dollars? What does that translate into USD?

Beyond the occasional unintended reboot if I keep it on for extended periods, I'm not having any problems with mine, and I've had it since 2002 or so. I can feel the power supply heating up a bit, so I just switch it off rather than keep it on for twelve hours or so. I have other keyboards, like the Moog LP and Taurus 3, that I keep on continuously. So no, I don't run the NL3 like that, but otherwise, it's still quite functional.


Yeah, I wouldn't be running it constantly either, and I'm the sort of person who takes care of my gear.

One sold on ebay Australia a couple of weeks ago for $2000 AUD, which at the moment is $2000 USD at the current exchange rate!

There's one in the US for $1200 at present, but then I've got $140 shipping and about $200 in duties/taxes, so $1500 it would be, if there's no bidding war...

It seems that there might be many NL3s that don't have any problems, so it's the usual gamble for buying used gear. I'll just have to work out if I can take the risk or not, or go for something else. That user interface though, how good is that!

Thanks for getting back to me with your findings on your NL3 though. Smile
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Wout Blommers



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wow!
2000 USD?
I've a NL3 key, signed by the development team...
But I promised not to sell...

Wout
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NordGas



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
Wow!
2000 USD?

It's only because the exchange rate is so far out of the normal range at the moment - normally $2000 AUD is about $1300 to $1400 USD.

Wout Blommers wrote:
I've a NL3 key, signed by the development team...
But I promised not to sell...

Collectors item! That could be worth significantly more than a regular NL3, to the right buyer. Time will tell... Smile
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NordGas



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
Wow!
2000 USD?
I've a NL3 key, signed by the development team...
But I promised not to sell...

Wout


Actually, it turns out that the $2000 NL3 did not selll, it has re-appeared...

I may have a chance here!
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munkthalund



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:19 am    Post subject: My Fix Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have two NL3s acting out this way,
a few weeks ago a boffin friend helped me track the cause

I've posted a fix here. Worked like a charm on both my synths.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/6515383-post19.html

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