Electro-Music Klee Sequencer Build and Applications Thread

Funky40 · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:32 am Post subject:

WOW,
one Panel is nicer than the other !!!

Sliders:
Since i saw this Video of that Sequenzer with sliders,
i like to have such a thing too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu8doblzfXU the Homepage http://www.studiomanus.com/index.htm

Has anybody a tip for good sliders ?
60mm ? ( more on the cheaper side if possible )
100mm which are sliding as smooth as those in the Video ?

thanks for all the Layouts

State Machine · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:21 am Post subject:

bugbrand · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:47 am Post subject:

Coming along nicely....!....

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Back-side---- First stages of the massive wiring job!

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mono-poly · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:10 am Post subject:

Looking good man!

numbernone · Joined: Aug 16, 2006 Posts: 477 Location: new york city

WHOA!!! I have been out of the loop for a few weeks...did the Klee boards go on sale already?

Really beautiful work everybody is doing. I am liking the slider option more and more all the time. Could somebody point towards the make of some of their slider pots? I have never used them but really love the visual aspect.

State Machine · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:56 am Post subject:

State Machine · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:02 am Post subject:

Scott Stites · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:38 am Post subject:

Scott will order the boards, ship them to mosc, and when the store is ready to handle it, PM all those who've reserved boards letting them know they're available for purchase! There are 74 individuals who've got 103 board sets reserved. The board sets will be purchased through the EM store.

Forgot to mention, I dig the Fonik Green. In fact, I think sliders not only look better and take less horizontal room, but I can see them as being preferable as far as telling what's going on at a glance. Not having the technology to cut straight lines in aluminium (I'm barely able to drill round holes) I went with rotary pots. I did have one nice guy offer to cut me a panel, and I may take him up on that on the next Klee I build.

Cheers,
Scott

Scott Stites · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:49 am Post subject:

Man, the Bugbrand version is going like gangbusters! Rumour has it he's fitting an extra surprise clock-board into it. I'm glad to see what a banana version will look like, too.

norman phay · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:37 am Post subject:

That looks goddamn awesome, bugbrand.

norman phay · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:39 am Post subject:

As an aside, did either of the guys who were working on the frac-format circular sequencer style layout get any further? Anyone have a .fpd file I can have a play around with?

a.b.o.z. · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:44 am Post subject:

didn't go any further. that last version is the final one. got aluminum sheet today. next week is cnc time. I'll keep you posted.
cheers

Ivan

edit:mine isn't frack-rack

abis · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: wiring tutorials?

These electro-music Klee's are looking just awesome! And the build pictures are giving me a great sense of what goes in to putting one together. Thanks to all for that.

Does anyone know of any good tutorials to help out a noob like me make sense of things like strap wiring and harnessing?

Cheers,

Andrew

Scott Stites · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject:

Hey Andrew,

Strap wiring is applying the wiring for all of the common connections the panel components have. For example, the pots each have to have a ground connection. If you consider that there are sixteen pots for the programming pots alone, that's sixteen ground connections right there. Instead of running a ground wire for each pot to the boards, you connect the ground points of each wire together and then run one wire to that common connector from the board.

Here's a page from the electro-music Klee Front Panel/Interconnect Schematic. If you take a look at it, you'll probably spot the "landmarks" on Bill and Tom's strap wiring pictures.

Note how the top and bottom of the gate bus switches all have a common connection (these are actually busses 1 and 3). The center of the switches each have their own individual connection - that makes up Gate Bus 2. Those connections each require an individual wire going back to the board. If you look at Bill and Tom's pics, you'll spot that row of switches with a length of bus wire connecting the top and bottom of the switches, but they haven't connected anything to the middle pin because they have yet to begin wiring the wires that connect to the board.

Also note that the merge switches, clock LED and the Manual Step Switch all have a common connection - they all connect to Digital Ground. So, that's another common connection you can wire into the panel. Wiring all of these common connections before wiring in the harness wires makes things a lot easier to assemble. Don't worry - the build doc will take you through the various steps.

The harnesses are not all as bad as it sounds. If you decide to use connectors, you can build the harnesses up ahead of time. This involves taking the wires, crimping or soldering pins onto them, and shoving those pins into a connector housing. The housing may hold two, three four, six wires or eight wires, and that's how many wires you shove into them. You end up with a housing with a number of wires hanging off the end. When it's time to put the Klee together, the loose ends of the wires solder to the panel parts, and the housing connects to the appropriate connector on the board.

Cheers,
Scott

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fonik · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject:

goodrevdoc · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject:

Freaking AMAZING work guys. I must admit though, I am sort of partial to Bugs' panel. Although mine will most likely end up looking like Scott's. Not that that's a bad thing. I happen to like the cold war era military test equipment look myself. That's what got me started in electronics in the first place. Plus, I am sadly also barely able to drill round holes. Embarassed

-justin

creekree · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject:

whew fonik, i like your panel!
what is the travel of your sliders?

i guess you want to color the screws for your sliders, eh? dont know how to do that, but another idea would have been to mount the sliders on two strips of metal and then to mount this "slider chassis" to the front panel. this way you´d end up with maybe 8 holes for the sliders on the panel instead of 32.

of course the shafts of the sliders have to be long enough to allow that.
hm, if your frontpanel is going to be painted (not anodized) you can get away with painting the screws heads in the same color. i did that with my x0xb0x.

ok, in german: (sorry guys!!):

(dies ist jetzt nicht exklusiv für den klee seq, aber adaptierbar für viele anwendungen. funktioniert ganz gut, wenn man die geduld hat)

die bohrlöcher versenken (oder von schaeffer versenken lassen), passende senkkopfschrauben (lieber zu lang als zu kurz!) einsetzen, von der rückseite mit sprengring und kontermutter versehen. festziehen, evtl loctite auf die schraube, diese verbindung soll sich nicht mehr lösen. nie mehr.
nun den schraubenkopf zuspachteln, schleifen, panel lackieren (legende mit lazertran machen - super zeug!), klarlackieren.
jetzt hat man ein frontpanel mit gewindebolzen auf der rückseite aber keinen erkennbaren schraubköpfen auf der vorderseite.
als nächstes abstandshalter aus messingröhrchen oder ähnlichem (kugelschreiber, gardinenstange, was-auch-immer) herstellen, pcb aufstecken, mutter drauf, fertig.

Smile

Uncle Krunkus · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject:

Uncle Krunkus · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject:

creekree · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject:

hehe babelfish sure is funny...

in short: i was describing how to make screw heads completely disappear.
your description, jan, is almost accurate - although its not "wire ends" (dont know what you mean by that), you'll have threaded bolts sticking out on the back of your panel to which you can fix your pcb (fader... whatever) to.

blue hell · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject:

Scott Stites · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject:

The Alison Project · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject:

drool...... soon I will Klee

Uncle Krunkus · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:32 am Post subject:

BTW
That latest layout is the dog's bollocks Fonik!
I love the large sweeping semicircular lines which kind of divide and tie the design together at the same time. Very Happy