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Wavedude

Joined: Oct 19, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Florida
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject:
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Hello, I'm new here. I came to this forum hoping that someone could tell me how to make a cheap and small synth. Ive gotten alot of the parts and board to start. But I really just need to know how I can connect it all into a simple VCO or a small synth or something. Ive looked at circuit board diaphragms and tried to understand them, but I think I might be looking at to big of synths.
Can anyone help me? All I need is a place to give me good instructions on how to make an easy synth.
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kokoon
Joined: Jan 09, 2006 Posts: 158 Location: slovenia
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject:
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| well what boards do you have? |
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toybox

Joined: Aug 03, 2005 Posts: 176 Location: chicago/peru,illinois usa
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Wavedude

Joined: Oct 19, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Florida
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject:
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| toybox wrote: | http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/
is a good place to start if you are starting out
vary good instructions and if you are looking for a nice small synth the sound lab project is vary nice
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I have been trying those ones but the ones I'm trying from there don't have much instructions except for a big diaphragm of the insides. Which is very hard to understand. |
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endif

Joined: Jul 14, 2006 Posts: 138 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject:
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@ wavedude
I'm a noob too, and have found that:
- Kits, such as the Blacet modules, are a great way to start. You become familiar very quickly with the parts, how they are put in, what not to do, what you must, do, etc because it's all spelled out for you step by step. Paiint by number. Plus you don't have to source out the parts.
- MFOS and CGS are excellent PCB makers, IMO, because not only do the designs rock in and of themselves, but the documentation is all very detailed; it's easy to follow the silkscreens vs. the parts lists, there are images of the finished board are supplied on the website, etc. Another really detailed PCB I got was the Mankato board from Magic Smoke. Very easy to put together, and the parts list includes Mouser part numbers so you know you're getting the right stuff. Really helped my learning curve. =]
For a full synth in a single project, I suggest the MFOS Sound Lab. Building one now, pretty easy so far for such a full featured unit.
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Wavedude

Joined: Oct 19, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:23 am Post subject:
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So, I should buy the kits online instead? That would be good, but I spent $67 dollars on supplies at Radioshack...
Nothing has been soldered yet, but the boxes have been opened and some of the parts have been bent a little. Could I take some parts back, and get a kit from online? |
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24669 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:43 am Post subject:
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What did you buy parts for then? _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Wavedude

Joined: Oct 19, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject:
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| Blue Hell wrote: | | What did you buy parts for then? |
I wanted to build the synth without getting the kit. But I'm finding out that it was stupid to try to make it myself. Now I don't know what I'm going to do with the parts I bought and buying the kit from online. Lol, please help ^_^. |
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23isgood

Joined: Nov 18, 2006 Posts: 236 Location: San Francisco, CA bay area
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Wavedude

Joined: Oct 19, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject:
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Hey, If I have the parts, can I just buy the PC Board they offer? then I wouldn't be spending much on parts. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject:
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| Wavedude wrote: | | the synth | Which one? Maybe you wrote it somewhere but I don't see it  _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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fluxmonkey
Joined: Jun 24, 2005 Posts: 708 Location: cleve
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject:
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| Wavedude wrote: |
Hey, If I have the parts, can I just buy the PC Board they offer? then I wouldn't be spending much on parts. |
that would work if you happened to have bought the correct parts for this particular project... but if you just went out and bought "some parts", that's unlikely. collecting the right parts for a particular circuit is actually a piece of work, which is one of the reasons kits are actually a pretty good value.
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EdisonRex
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Joined: Mar 07, 2007 Posts: 4579 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject:
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I think that what is being said, and I'll happily repeat it here, is that you should hold onto what you've bought, and just get the right parts for the kit you want to build, so you can be successful at a build and get some confidence up. The parts keep. Some people trade them away for others (yes, that is a hint to post what you have). Some people figure out stuff to build once the bug bites.
What you need is to be successful in a build, and I think the advice you are getting is sound. But don't even think about getting rid of what you've bought so far. DIY has, as a side effect, collecting parts.
Something you should buy, and I am not kidding, is a breadboard kit. Then you can really play. You can download all of the circuits and application notes for things, and then try building them on a pinboard, and then you get intimately familiar with what you are building. I think that's the big DIY draw, you actually understand what's going on in the circuit. The breadboard is the way to that.
However, first, have some successes building kits. It's more important to know how to build properly, first. _________________ Garret: It's so retro.
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Wavedude

Joined: Oct 19, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject:
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Well, thank you so much. I will try to see what I can do about getting the right things for this kit.
Also, There is some things I am missing. (I really should have bought the kit .)
I guess I'm missing some of the right ceramic capacitors, and I am missing the CD40601. So, Ive gotta get those. I really don't want to spend $70 on the kit. Especially since I got all these parts for $70, lol. |
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Wavedude

Joined: Oct 19, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject:
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| Blue Hell wrote: | | Wavedude wrote: | | the synth | Which one? Maybe you wrote it somewhere but I don't see it  |
The WSG. Its the "your first synth" project. |
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loss1234

Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 1536 Location: nyc
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject:
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In july, i went out and also bought a ton of parts to build a wsg. I DID Not buy a pc board, had NO knowledge of electronics, and at the time there was no kit for the wsg.
anyway, to make a long story short, it was alot of fun. i first made it on a breadboard, to make sure it worked, and i learned alot in the process. then i transffered it to a perfboard (they sell one at radio shack that looks just like a breadboard pattern so its easy to transfer)
and it worked out great.
Now i am not saying you shouldnt buy the pcb, but once you get the CD40106 chip, if you have all the other parts, well then you will be fine.
the lm741 is available at radio shack.
since the summer, i have now built tons of different projects, filters, vco's, and am now also building a soundlab and starting a modular. the sky is the limit. and so far, i have NEVER even bought a pc board. i have done everything on perfboard.
and with the help of this forum and a bunch of internet sites and books, i have learned a ton about electronics.
hope this advice helps.
btw-pulling your hair out can be lots of fun when it leads to a big payoff _________________ -------------------------------------------- check out various dan music at: http://www.myspace.com/lossnyc
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blue hell
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:17 am Post subject:
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| Wavedude wrote: | | The WSG. Its the "your first synth" project. |
Clear now, thanks.
I'll not dump any advice here, there is plenty of that already  _________________ Jan
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amos_joseph

Joined: May 09, 2005 Posts: 50 Location: Lincoln, NE
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:26 am Post subject:
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| Wavedude wrote: | | I guess I'm missing some of the right ceramic capacitors, and I am missing the CD40601. So, Ive gotta get those. I really don't want to spend $70 on the kit. Especially since I got all these parts for $70, lol. |
Finding the right parts at a decent price is a big part of DIY. Radioshack is nice if you need some quick parts, but you definitely pay a premium. Unfortunately, a lot of the online electronics suppliers are pretty intimidating when you're first starting out. If you're in the US, you might want to check out Jameco. They have decent prices, and they actually have photos of the components, so it's a little easier to make sure you're getting the right parts. It's also a lot cheaper than Radioshack, even when you factor in shipping. |
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