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Need a pgrogram that gives notes of a sample.
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astedra



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:44 am    Post subject: Need a pgrogram that gives notes of a sample. Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Computers a making me lazy. Is there a program that gives me the notes of a sample? My ears are not sensitive as to pick up the notes I hear yet. Although I'm eventually going to have to learn to play the piano, this came into my head as an aid. If I sing into a mic, is there a program that gives me that notes for it, so that I could go and play it in Reason whatever I have song in the mic.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ah, the holy grail, audio to MIDI conversion. People have been talking about this since, uh, since MIDI became popular. The bad news is that I've never heard of anything that has pulled this off. The good news is that once you start doing it the old-fashioned way, your ears actually get better at it over time.

If the only thing I'm trying to "lift" (transcribe) is a single line melody, sometimes I'll just play it on the synth into a sequencer program, do some clean up, and then I have the melody in MIDI.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The company Celemony_ makes software that can analyse and edit audio. The cheapest version, Melodyne uno, will analyze audio input and transcribe it. To get MIDI output you need at least Melodyne cre8. Melodyne can only analyse monophonic input. One of the main features of it, in addition to the analysis, is that it actually lets you edit the audio in a piano roll interface(!).

There may be other software offerings that can do similar things. I haven't tried Melodyne myself, but I'm sure you can find reviews of it on the net. The real challenge, which I can't see how to overcome yet, is to do the same for polyphonic music...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Somebody sad just use a guitar tuner for $30, sing into it and it will give me the notes.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

DrJustice wrote:
I haven't tried Melodyne myself...


I tried it Very Happy check this out
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ahh... I should've remebered - HAL's Italian cousin. Very cool! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

astedra wrote:
Somebody sad just use a guitar tuner for $30, sing into it and it will give me the notes.


Guitar tuners *can* be usefull for similar tasks but they are meant for guitars and then only for tuning a single string at a time using sustained notes.

The human voice and practical melodies are a lot more complicated then that.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Need a pgrogram that gives notes of a sample. Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

astedra wrote:
If I sing into a mic, is there a program that gives me that notes for it, so that I could....


I’ve been thinking about this recently as well. I’ve taken to carrying a personal voice recorder around with me to record ideas when I’m away from the computer. It has a USB interface so I can just plug it into the computer and drag off the wav files I have recorded.

I thought it would be good to import the wav to a track in my sequencer and use a plug-in of some sort to convert it and record it into a second, Midi, sequencer track. It could be an easy way of working if you don’t have a Midi keyboard attached to the PC.

I recently discovered Reaper. It has a plug-in called Reatune which would appear to do exactly what I want. I have not tried it out yet but here is some more info...

http://www.cockos.com/wiki/forums.html/Use_Reatune_to_write_audio_to_midi

An interesting thing about Reatune is that it can look ahead at the previously recorded audio track so should be able to work out the pitch more accurately – Maybe ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Few years ago I've used InelliScore Polyphonic to convert polyphonic melodies to MIDI. Besides some error "random" notes here and there (actually there were plenty of them all around) it worked pretty well, and with some effort made to manually clean the track from errors it could be very useful.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: need a program that gives notes of a sample. Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

if the sequencer of choice has a "piano roll" feature...
then you would find the root key @ C3,C4 or C5.
every note inbetween is a diff sample ......
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