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Olbermann once again pretty much right on
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I didn't vote in years because since we've had voting machines there is no guarantee at all anything is ever done with my vote and every guarantee it's registered in my name in some database


Yea in this life if you need guarantees you might as well hang it up. Go vote and say f&*^'em's my advice.


I have a constitutional right to such guarantees; in fact I have a right to take part in overseeing (part of) the election if I feel the need. In my interpretation that would mean going over the source code to these machines and indeed verify that it's the same code that's running. Right now I can't... curiously I can't -partially- because of a government that was elected by these machines. I'm not saying I there is a link but if I consider the way *I* play Civilisation; there'd be one if I was in a position to do such things and in desire for more power.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

We could put a thousand men and women on the moon now, if we wanted to.

The sad thing is we're more interested in money, guns and God.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Uncle Krunkus wrote:

The sad thing is we're more interested in money, guns and God.


Sure, and applauding loudly for people who shout loudly.

Admittedly it was this "us v.s. them" idea that got people to the moon at all but then again; it was hardly a very useful exercise compared to -say- investing in education, healthcare, the environment or international relations.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Well call me a nattering nabob of negativism but it seems to me that historically those periods are as rare as they are short lived. You're thinking some period post McCarthy?


You're probably right. Specifically, I was thinking of the period starting at roughly FDR and ending with Reagan. Reagan took the conversation away from differing opinions that could be logically discussed into more of a realm of absolute right and wrong and emotional resonance. Reagan was a disaster, in my opinion.

Well, as I understand my history, LBJ kept a war going that he was convinced was a loss, and Nixon upped the ante. And weren't the MCarthy/HUAC witchhunts during the "I Like Ike" years? Lots of karma to get beyond, and not much intelligence or effort going into getting past it.

I enjoy Keith Olbermann's rants, although I don't usually make it all the way through, nothing against him. The other "news" talking heads are mostly damp dishrags or right wing provocateurs. I'll see how I feel after the election in November.

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Creepy.....how did they get my inner monologue on video?
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, I guess this one doesn't loop........
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