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etaoin

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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject:
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Does anyone have clean versions of the Elektor vocoder pcb designs? I have both the English and French PDF, but they neither are straight nor very clean. It's probably possible to straighten them out and get useable pcbs from them, but if anyone has better ones it would safe some work. _________________ http://www.casia.org/modular/ |
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fonik

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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject:
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Etaoin wrote: | Does anyone have clean versions of the Elektor vocoder pcb designs? I have both the English and French PDF, but they neither are straight nor very clean. It's probably possible to straighten them out and get useable pcbs from them, but if anyone has better ones it would safe some work. |
do you talk about the 14band vocoder that was also published in the german ELRAD magazine? _________________
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etaoin

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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject:
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Not sure. I'm not familiar with the ELRAD magazine.
The Elektor one is a 10-band vocoder though. _________________ http://www.casia.org/modular/ |
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fonik

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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject:
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the german ELRAD amgazined published several designs borought from other magazines, so it could have been but in this special case it seems to be not.
BTW the ELRAD magazin is available on PDF for about 30.-EUR and features a lot of interesting cricuits such as the Transcent2000, the 14band vocoder, a polysynth, a lots of FX, mixers and such and even digital FX... - all in german, though. _________________
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CJ Miller

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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject:
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Hi there. I don't have any, but this is exactly the sort of thing which inspired me to start this other thread:
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-27044.html
I am still trying to make basic modules so that I can have a system to play. So... vocoder is going to need to wait until I am caught up with other things. Over the years I have dreamt of making the ETI/Powertran vocoder, but those PCB files are a real mess too. Realistically, it'll be at least a year before I make any sort of vocoder.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject:
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Hi Etaoin, I've got the originals around here somewhere. Give me a couple of weeks or so (I'm really snowed under at the moment), and I'll pull them out, and scan them.
Incidently, you do know that, although harder to build (due to the one circuit board only- apart from the voiced/unvoiced detector?), the Powertran version was a lot better (Tim Orr/ EMS design you know! ).
I've also got the voiced/unvoiced detector for the Elektor somewhere too.
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etaoin

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:59 am Post subject:
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v-un-v wrote: | Incidently, you do know that, although harder to build (due to the one circuit board only- apart from the voiced/unvoiced detector?), the Powertran version was a lot better (Tim Orr/ EMS design you know! ).
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Yes, but indeed, even apart from the pcb being about twice as large as any raw epoxy currently being sold, it would be impossible to fit into my etching tank...
Apart from that, those scans of that pcb are even worse
And I like the patchability of the Elektor one... _________________ http://www.casia.org/modular/ |
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:49 am Post subject:
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Etaoin wrote: | v-un-v wrote: | Incidently, you do know that, although harder to build (due to the one circuit board only- apart from the voiced/unvoiced detector?), the Powertran version was a lot better (Tim Orr/ EMS design you know! ).
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Yes, but indeed, even apart from the pcb being about twice as large as any raw epoxy currently being sold, it would be impossible to fit into my etching tank...
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Yes. I thought you might spot that one!
Somewhere else (but I don't know where now ) I had a circuit for a CMOS-based vocoder that hardly used any parts. I think it was 20 channels or so  _________________ ACHTUNG!
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:45 am Post subject:
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PCB scans sent!  _________________ ACHTUNG!
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etaoin

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:04 am Post subject:
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Thanks! Should be better to manipulate being greyscale (contrary to the b/w bitmaps from DAG). _________________ http://www.casia.org/modular/ |
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Papareil

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:25 am Post subject:
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Hello,
For the eventual builders of the Elektor vocoder , i have recently found back a couple of buss pcbs i have home-etched many years ago . They are for sale on Ebay... Make me an offer by email if you want to Buy it now ...
Please notice the copper is still well protected, i have not removed the sensitive varnish ...
It is here :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300237755637
Cheers,
Marc B. _________________ PAPAREIL SYNTH LABS
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etaoin

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:31 am Post subject:
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Hehe, should've known that earlier. Could have bought them and ship them with the quantix
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Papareil

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject:
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Quote: | Hehe, should've known that earlier. Could have bought them and ship them with the quantix |
I found them 3 days ago while i was cleaning my labs back room...Completly forgotten i had this kind of thing since years !
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:39 am Post subject:
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Nope. Not that one (Tim Orr). Another ETI vocoder. The schematic is probably gone for good. It was only half a page of A4. _________________ ACHTUNG!
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:18 am Post subject:
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I searched all over the interwebs and only found auctions for ETI magazine lots. ;C |
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StephenGiles
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject:
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v-un-v wrote: |
Nope. Not that one (Tim Orr). Another ETI vocoder. The schematic is probably gone for good. It was only half a page of A4. |
I think I am guilty of the cmos one in ETI Tech Tips. It was just a joke because ETI paid £20 for any Tech Tips published so I thought of any old rubbish and I think had around 5 or 6 published!! |
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject:
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It was YOU???
This is an honour SIR!!
Have you still got the schematic?? Joke or no Joke, it still sounds feasible!  _________________ ACHTUNG!
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject:
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I do have a pile (year 78 to 87 I think) of Elektuurs (dutch Elektor). One of them does have the Vocoder schematics. Still interested Etaoin? |
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