If there's no G3, I reckon G2 should become soft-synth

purusha · Joined: Mar 13, 2008 Posts: 131 Location: Ilkley

If (note, that's an "if") Nord no longer think that modular hardware is a goer, I reckon they should consider expanding the demo to a fully blown commercial soft-synth.

I know they're a hardware company, but surely this would be something worth considering. They're most of the way there anyhow, as we know, with the demo.

Everyone who's worried about their hardware breaking down would then at least have their investment in patch design secure.

Any thoughts on that?

Very Happy

Roland Kuit · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:04 am Post subject:

yes, i mentioned this idea before. and you have a good point about the pch's have been made.

purusha · Joined: Mar 13, 2008 Posts: 131 Location: Ilkley

It's not an original idea, but I think its time might have now come.

Wink

Roland Kuit · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:57 am Post subject:

there are bugs in the Demo, so when they fix this, there is a chance for a new hardware update? in the demo version they just have to enable the audio in and midi stuff again.

Antimon · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:16 am Post subject:

I think they could set the price pretty high for such a softsynth and still sell loads - with a fairly low amount of work. If cross-platform maintenance feels like too big an undertaking there ought to be appropriate subcontractors to be found, but even if they just released something, saying "this will only ever be supported for Windows XP such-and-such version", I think it would sell.

/Stefan

purusha · Joined: Mar 13, 2008 Posts: 131 Location: Ilkley

Mmm. Just what I was thinking - the work involved is probably already 90% done. Not sure how to bring this to the attention of the Nord people though...

"Money for old rope" you might say...

Smile

Chrono · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:58 am Post subject:

in my opinion i dont like the g2 to become a vst/dx/rtas soft synth. That's becouse most software is cracked within a couple weeks. And then again, i dont know any soft/hardware based synth with such nice possibilities and hi quality. The g2 costed me a lot, and was very much worth it.. but not anymore if they will make a full software version.

I do like to have a possibility to create custom modules, altough i'm not a programming guy Cool

i believe there are some who are smart enough. On the other hand, I really would like more future updates from clavia themself as this is their project.

i would love a Point Step Envelope with curves between each point, And 2 loop points. A Voice controller for Polyfonic Unison (so just 1 patch can be used with polyfonic unison, and all abnormalities solved like bouncing notes at heavy detune) And It seems the usual Ringmodulator module is not there. Furthermore a Group Switch module (so you can switch input 1/2 to input 3/4 or input 1/2/3/4 to 5/6/7/8 ) Easy for stereo switches withouth using 2 value switches. A Granular module for timestretch fx. An more advanced Reverb, with reverse algorithm. Then A WaveDraw osc, or Additive Osc.

I believe these things are possible, it would boost up my g2 a lot Very Happy

purusha · Joined: Mar 13, 2008 Posts: 131 Location: Ilkley

But if more aren't making any more g2 units, why would they want to continue to develop the software? They didn't exactly do much development whilst it was current!

I guess they could do further development and charge for it, but I'd be amazed I'd they did.

So what if someone manages to crack the software? So long as people are still paying for it, more would be getting money they'd otherwise miss out on. Every soft-synth manufacturer has potentially the same problem, but some do seem to make money out of it.

To be blunt - I think Nord shot themselves in the foot somewhat with the G2 demo as-is. I know a fair few people who use the demo as a mono-synth and are happy to use it as is - free!

If those people could pay some money, get multi-timbrality and VSTi plug-in functionality, I reckon there's potential. Doesn't stop anyone with a G2 using it does it? Might even mean that if a VST were popular and got properly supported, we hardware owners might even get extra functionality (modules etc.) as a result!

Chrono · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:46 am Post subject:

you do got a point there. but for now i read on their site:

"The Nord Modular G2 (37-key version) and Nord Modular G2 Engine (rack version) are still in production and can be found here."

people talk about a total discontinue. is it true ?

and besides if they want vst , they should completly rewrite the source code right?

i also want further developments. and there is still room for it i guess. the software editor is not at its limit right? its not up to me what should happen. but i hope for the best Smile

drapdap · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject:

buzzr · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject:

I posted this on another g2 discussion page today. I think we will know after NAMM whether or not Nord will be doing anything with the modular.

I did get in contact with the company, here is the email back from them and my question...

Hi

Thanks for your email,

I really can't discuss or make any comments on future products or
updates, we just have to wait and see.

Best Regards
Tomas Johansson
Product Manager - Clavia DMI

-----Original Message-----
From: rud4@gmail.com [mailto:rud4@gmail.com]
Sent: den 22 december 2008 17:45
To: feedback@clavia.se
Subject: Webform Comment From buzzr

User: (rud4@gmail.com)
Description:
Hello-

I own a G2 and I use it everyday. I notice that most channels to buy a
G2 are now dried up.

Is there a new modular project in the works or is this it for the
modular.

sincerely,

dioioib · Joined: May 23, 2008 Posts: 56 Location: canada

purusha · Joined: Mar 13, 2008 Posts: 131 Location: Ilkley

The guys using the demo as described are members of other audio production forums.

I'd love to see a backwards compatible g3, but I think I'm being a realist in not expecting one.

dorremifasol · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:28 am Post subject:

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Jackout · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:14 am Post subject:

They'd need to implement the MIDI and polyphony. The polyphony would definitely need some work with regard CPU spikes.

I've used the demo alongside Cubase and my FX and other softsynths. When you start up basic G2 patches, there's a significant jump in CPU usage even though my processor is a top of the range Intel. If Nord ever went down this route I think they'll encounter the same challenges as Hartmann did with their Neuron VS - the jump from hardware to software and how you keep polyphony high as possible while making CPU resources availble for other stuff.

Chrono · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:23 am Post subject:

cappy2112 · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject:

cappy2112

blue hell

Antimon · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject:

cappy2112

[quote="Blue Hell"]

blue hell

ian-s · Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject:

With the patch file format sorted, there would be nothing to stop someone from creating (from scratch) a G2 soft synth with 100% patch compatibility with the G2. This would extend the useful life of the hardware. Even without cracking the USB protocol, it would be possible to create and load new patches into the hardware.

Would be able to add macro groups and 256 module colours Smile

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Might be able to make the sync sound better and everyone would be able to choose their own DAC ;¬)

drapdap · Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:58 am Post subject:

ian-s · Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:29 pm Post subject: