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Nord 2x rack problem with arp sync
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: Nord 2x rack problem with arp sync Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi.

I have a big problem.. I have an nord rack 2x, and I turn the arpeggiator sync and lfo sync to ON, by pushing SHIFT+SPECIAL buttons. that´s right.. but when I switch on my nord rack 2x the next day I can see than arp sync and lfo sync is turn to off. Why?.. is there any OS update to download?.. is this a OS bug?
Another question, I have assigned slot A to 1-2 outputs... slot B to 1-2 outputs, slot C to 3-4 outputs and slot D to 3-4 outputs too. and when I try un pan a preset from L to R in cubase or logic (using CC 7), it´s impossible. why?.. Can be it possible in any way?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

welcome ENIGMA

Because the NordLead is original designed as a performance synthesizer there is no global 'save system settings'. So it doesn't work for single Programs, but this information is saved in Performance mode. Do you need a single Program, save just one Program in Performance mode, simple as that. On page 36 of the manual you can find what is being saved in this particular mode.

Making a Pan is much more difficult. It can't be done using just one program controlled by just one Midi Channel, because the NordLead doesn't have a Pan parameter. CC7 controls the program Gain, so you'll need two Programs to do this.
I suggest to make a Performance containing the same Program twice, each having it's own Midi channel. Both used Slots have a Out of it's own, the mixing desk is set in Left-Right panning. When CC7 of the first Slot is turned up, the second CC7 will be turned down.

It's just a sketch; I never tried it Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Wout Blommers, thank you for your answer.. but.. one question, If I save a performer for with this parameters for example: SLOT A "B058" SLOT B "F015" SLOT C "A073" SLOT D "C014", and I´m in single mode (not performance).. when I´ll change a sound into a slot (in one theme).. for expample SLOT A "B058" to SLOT A "C078" then this slot turn arp sync to off. and lfo sync to off too, doesn´t it?

thank you very very much...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The parameters concerning LFOSync is only saved in PerfMode. [Manual page 112 - Performance Data Format - Offset 272] You can't find these parameters in the PatchFormat, not even in PerfMode [Offset 0 to 263]

Anyway, changing it in Program mode won't help, but changing it in Performance mode, without changing the Performance itself, will work.
As you see you are able to make four different sync parameters to each Slot.
BUT noting you are using a Rack version... beware of the fact all Slots always react to Midi, even when not active, and always react to the left most Midi channel...
This can be tricky. Did you read the sticky thread about Midi and Racks already? http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-30652.html

BTW I edited your post by removing the quotation of the complete mail I posted.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi again.

I have tried to work in performance mode, but I have seen 2 problems.

First of all, I created a new performance preset set slot A to C from channel 2 to channel 5 (I mean. Slot A->ch 2, Slot B -> ch 3 Slot C->ch 4 and Slot D -> ch 5). and I set up each slot to arp and lfo sync to ON, that´s right and it works.

But.. the problems are. When I try to assign each Slot to a diferent output I have seen that is not possible. (I wanna assign Slot A, to output 1-2 Slot B to the same outputs. Slot C and D to the 3-4 outputs).. but If I assign slot A to the 1-2 outputs, the others Slots are assigned to 1-2 outputs. and there´s no way to change it. (is this possible?... how?)


the second problem , when I turn on Nord the next time it open in single mode not performance mode. It´s possible to change this mode for when I´ll turn on the nord I´ll be in performance mode?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ENIGMA wrote:
... But.. the problems are. When I try to assign each Slot to a diferent output I have seen that is not possible. (I wanna assign Slot A, to output 1-2 Slot B to the same outputs. Slot C and D to the 3-4 outputs).. but If I assign slot A to the 1-2 outputs, the others Slots are assigned to 1-2 outputs. and there´s no way to change it. (is this possible?... how?)
Slot A & B are coupled together and so are Slot C & D. So there are two menu's to set the routing, A&B and C&D. To enter A&B press [Shift+OutMode] (Out Mode is the knob used to activate Slot B). To enter C&D press [Shift+(2x)OutMode] When the LCD screen reads -.Cd the setting is the same as *.Ab, so when 4.Ab is set, which means SlotA > OutA, SlotB to OutB, Slot C and Slot D will copy this setting, so SlotC to OutA and SlotD to OutB.
Do you want to route C and D in another configuration, don't set the Cd menu in -.Cd, but [1] to [4]. In your question set this to 1.Cd. These settings are related to 'Slot to Output' and KeyboardSplit has no influence, only which part of the Keyboard controls Slot A&B and Slot C&D.
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the second problem , when I turn on Nord the next time it open in single mode not performance mode. It´s possible to change this mode for when I´ll turn on the nord I´ll be in performance mode?
The NordLead will open in the last used Program, but one hit on the Performance knob it is set in the last used Performance. There is no [Save Synth System] option

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thank you very much... I´ll try it tonight and I´ll tell you something.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I m going crazy.

When I m on performance mode, I press slot A and then I press shift+output buttons, then I chose 1ab, and press shift again , then I press slot C and Press shift+output and I chose 1cd , then press shift , later press store, but when I press shit+output mode to see the output assigned in slot C, I can see 1ab is selected, why?... I chosed 1cd in this slot into performance mode.

But this is not all, I go to single mode, I had A and B slots asigned to 1ab outputs and B a C to 1cd, but now all outputs are 1ab in all slots. I try to change this outputs. I mean , in single mode I press shift+output mode in slot C and I select 1cd, then I press shift again.. but nothing happens. When I press shift+output mode to see if slot C is selected 1cd, I can see 1ab is selected into this slot.. why?... what s wrong?

Have I to install OS 1.0 again?... is there any bug?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ENIGMA wrote:
... But this is not all, I go to single mode, I had A and B slots asigned to 1ab outputs and B a C to 1cd, but now all outputs are 1ab in all slots. I try to change this outputs. I mean , in single mode I press shift+output mode in slot C and I select 1cd, then I press shift again.. but nothing happens. When I press shift+output mode to see if slot C is selected 1cd, I can see 1ab is selected into this slot.. why?... what s wrong? ...
The second question I know by heart, so I'll answer this one first. (The second one I have to check first)
To see what's the Output mode of Slot C just hit the Slot B button twice! Only Slot B button is active, but doesn't refer to the Slot anymore, just to which Output mode is selected.
BTW In Output mode 1Ab Slot A and Slot B go all two to Output A and B, so Slot B is also in Output A and Slot A is also in Output B.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
The second question I know by heart, so I'll answer this one first. (The second one I have to check first) ...
I see the first one is the same misunderstanding: just press [Shift+Slot B] to set Slot A & B; press [Shift=2xSlot B] to set Slot C & D.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
Wout Blommers wrote:
The second question I know by heart, so I'll answer this one first. (The second one I have to check first) ...
I see the first one is the same misunderstanding: just press [Shift+Slot B] to set Slot A & B; press [Shift=2xSlot B] to set Slot C & D.

Wout
So , I have to put 1cd and 1ab to sound stereo mode. isn t it?

thank you very much.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ENIGMA wrote:
So , I have to put 1cd and 1ab to sound stereo mode. isn t it?
Well, it's not that simple. I will write a sticky article about the Out mode with audio examples and try to make clear what you can do with it... Just give me some time Smile

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(who also has to do the RingModulator...)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wout Blommers wrote:
ENIGMA wrote:
So , I have to put 1cd and 1ab to sound stereo mode. isn t it?
Well, it's not that simple. I will write a sticky article about the Out mode with audio examples and try to make clear what you can do with it... Just give me some time Smile

Wout
(who also has to do the RingModulator...)
ok. Thank you very very very much.

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