Apple killed Logic 9 - no manuals included!

elektro80

All hate posts goes in this thread!

And do remember to post your comments to Apple as well:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/logicpro.html

Paul Norheim · Joined: Jul 27, 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Norway

I haven`t got Logic 9 yet, but I doubt that this is true.

Here is a link to an introduction called "Exploring Logic Pro 9":

http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Exploring_Logic_Pro_9.pdf

And this is a quote from p.165 in the introductory-pdf:

"Exploring Logic Pro Help
Logic Pro Help provides in-depth descriptions and instructions about the features and controls (the tasks you can perform) with Logic Pro.

Try This
Open the Logic Pro User Manual:
In Logic Pro, choose Help > Logic Pro Help, then click Logic Pro 9: User Manual.

Open the Logic Studio Instruments manual:
In Logic Pro, choose Help > Logic Pro Help, then click Logic Studio: Instruments.

Open the Logic Studio Effects manual:
In Logic Pro, choose Help > Logic Pro Help, then click Logic Studio: Effects."

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So, it looks like the big manuals are buried in the Help Menu...

Paul Norheim · Joined: Jul 27, 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Norway

Sorry,

It looks like the "manuals" I referred to above are short and crappy web pages - not the real thing.

Give us the 1000+ pages in pdf!

v-un-v · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject:

Hooray! This campsite has internet! Very Happy

(and I can't sleep! Shocked

)

Come on lets face it, who read the manual anyway? Most kids who are using Logic these days are being taught the basics either at school or at college- so there is no need for 1000 page pdf's any more. And in any Applestore you can get either free advice or pay for advanced advice. I think Apple are finding that 1to1 training is very popular (I always prefer someone to show me rather than reading dry and boring manuals! Wink

)

Too bad that I never seem to have the time these days to use or play with Logic Crying or Very sad

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:14 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:54 am Post subject:

BTW... Paul Norheim! welcome

Paul Norheim · Joined: Jul 27, 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Norway

Thanks, electro80.

I think Peter Kirn over at Create Digital Music will ask Apple about the missing manual later this week.

Paul Norheim · Joined: Jul 27, 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Norway

FYI, this is from an exchange between Peter Kirn and me today at createdigitalmusic.com:

"Peter Kirn
Oh, I see — they’ve just gone Web/HTML only. I’ll see if they include a local copy; would be crazy if they didn’t. In some ways, that’s easier to deal with than a PDF, and I certainly won’t miss a bunch of heavy, paper manuals.

July 28, 2009 @ 6:41 am

Paul Norheim
Peter, I`m afraid the online manual is, to quote a guy at the electro-music forum, “a Reader´s Digest version for those who won´t read the manuals anyway”.

I think the 1000 pages`manual is gone. I guess it was a question of budget and time, and they decided that they couldn`t afford the work. However, I`m sure the many users who actually read the excellent manuals (me included), will be outraged. With such a complex application, a good manual is indispensable. Please tell them!

July 28, 2009 @ 11:00 am

Peter Kirn
Yeah, indeed, it looks like the actual *copy* from the original manual has been nuked. Given that there are only subtle changes from Logic 8 to the vast majority of functionality, that’s really surreal. So this will be high on my (ahem, increasingly lengthy) set of questions.

July 28, 2009 @ 11:01 am"
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Peter Kirn will talk to Apple about Logic Studio 9 later this week.

elektro80 · Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:55 pm Post subject:

BobTheDog · Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:34 am Post subject:

Well at least PDF files are now available:

http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/

dioioib · Joined: May 23, 2008 Posts: 56 Location: canada