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tama2d2
Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 6 Location: Marseille, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:04 am Post subject:
Cv Sequencer output from the modular g1 Subject description: cv output without mods, only patches |
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Hello, i've created a cv sequencer that enables you to create an analog sequencer with 16 steps with pitch (output phones) and gate (out 2 or right) Note: 33 changes of the pitch up and 32 down in the sequencer notes correspond to 12 tones of an octave upper or an octave lower.
the gate 16 steps was created with 32 steps because Every one needs a silence behind in order to reactivate the following.
I hope you will. They were tested with a Doepfer system and work perfectly.
Sorry about my english
http://www.hispasonic.com/forums.html?controller=forum&action=view_attachment&attachment_id=154929
Description in French & Spanish:
cv sequencer permet créer un sequenceur analogique 16 pas avec pitch out (sortie phones out) et un gate (sortie out 2 ou right) merci de noter que 33 variations du pitch vers le haut et 32 vers le bas du sequenceur de notes correspondent aux 12 tons d'une octave de plus ou une octave de moins.
le gate de 16 pas à été crée avec 32 pas car chaqu'un a besoin d'un silence derrière pour pouvoir réactiver le suivant.
J'espère qui vous servira. Ils ont été testés avec un système doepfer et fonctionnent à la perfection.
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"secuenciador cv" un secuenciador de 16 pasos (aunque se puede ampliar hasta 64 para quien lo desee) para sintes analógicos programados con el micromodular. Probado en el dark energy funciona perfecto (unico bemol!: una octava de mas se hace añadiendo 33 subidas de tono a la nota original, una octava de menos se hace bajando 32 bajadas de tono a la nota original. No he podido de otro modo, asi que hay que calcular las conversiones - 33 variaciones son 12 semitonos - . Señalar también que los 32 pasos del gate corresponden en realidad a 16 pasos reales ya que cada paso necesita un silencio detras para reactivarse de nuevo el siguiente.
Lo he probado en el moog y no va bien, creo que porque el moog funciona en otro voltaje para el gate y el pitch
Salida Phones envia las notas,
salida out 2 (right) envia el gate
A disfrutarlo señores |
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varice

Joined: Dec 29, 2004 Posts: 961 Location: Northeastern shore of Toledo Bend
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:52 am Post subject:
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So, the G1 headphone output is DC coupled I did not know that.
Thanks for posting this news.
I just tested my G2 Keyboard headphone output, and it is also capable of passing a DC voltage. It can produce a voltage range slightly greater than +8 to -8 volts. The output voltage is inverted in relation to the polarity of the G2 patch signal, but that is not a big problem. _________________ varice |
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tama2d2
Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 6 Location: Marseille, France
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Blue Hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24033 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:27 am Post subject:
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that took like 15 years to find out, or what was it?
Great find! _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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tama2d2
Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 6 Location: Marseille, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:31 am Post subject:
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thanks!  |
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tama2d2
Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 6 Location: Marseille, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:46 am Post subject:
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I discover it after to buy the phone app "brute lfo" thats uses the phone's output to send an cv lfo....
after that i said to myself... i'm sure that's possible with the microdoluar! and after 2 days of experimentation i built one lfo cv output... after that the cv sequencer comes out easily
that's all folks  |
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varice

Joined: Dec 29, 2004 Posts: 961 Location: Northeastern shore of Toledo Bend
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:54 pm Post subject:
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tama2d2 wrote: | I'm very glad to help you, it's a great "new" feature
i enjoy it massively with the sequencer, or an lfo's, or other stuffs ... |
You can even use it as a MIDI to CV Note Pitch/Gate convertor
Several years ago I modified my Nord Modular G2X synth to get a DC CV signal output to control/modulate the cutoff frequency of a moogerfooger MF-101 Low Pass Filter pedal to use as an external analog filter module. It works great. Check this out:
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-12266.html
But it now appears that modification is not mandatory to achieve my goal. I’m not sure now why I did not check the headphone output at the time for DC CV output. I can only guess that I had incorrectly assumed that the headphone output was also DC blocked as are the signals to the audio output jacks. I think that maybe I had also assumed that the output 3 and 4 busses were also routed to the headphone amp, but that is NOT the case (at least on my G2 Keyboard running OS 1.62 or my G2X running OS 1.40). I need to do some more testing to see if it works as well using the headphone output for the CV signal… _________________ varice |
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varice

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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:28 am Post subject:
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varice wrote: | ...I need to do some more testing to see if it works as well using the headphone output for the CV signal… |
It works
Gracias Nacho  _________________ varice |
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severence

Joined: Jul 03, 2011 Posts: 5 Location: spain
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:03 am Post subject:
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Great find, this going to be really useful!! Thanks very much!  |
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tama2d2
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:06 am Post subject:
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You're welcome Varice! i'm very glad for you!  |
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Electromagnetic Wave

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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:06 am Post subject:
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Thanks X 1 000 000 tama2d2 !!! Good deduction from the phone app.
Quote: | that took like 15 years to find out, or what was it? |
haha! that's funny! What's next ?!  |
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Antimon
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dasz

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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:04 pm Post subject:
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Awesome! Thanks tama2d2!!! That made my weekend. |
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Roland Kuit
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:16 am Post subject:
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Great find!  |
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klangumsetzer

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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:32 am Post subject:
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 _________________ Make a joyful noise!
Eike |
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avantronica
Joined: Sep 07, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: old scotia
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:01 am Post subject:
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to save other G1 owners getting too excited, the voltages max out for me at 1.8 +/- on both the keys and mm, still handy but nothing like the 8v described above ! |
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BobTheDog

Joined: Feb 28, 2005 Posts: 4041 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:24 am Post subject:
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Blue Hell wrote: |
that took like 15 years to find out, or what was it?
Great find! |
To be honest I'm disappointed in you Jan, I thought you knew everything about the G2.
Maybe now  |
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BobTheDog

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:30 am Post subject:
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Just been thinking about it (out walking the dog in the pub), as there are 2 outputs would it be possible to use one as a clock and the other as a multiplexed signal and knock some hardware together to demultiplex this to multiple cv outs, like a clocked S&H sort of thingy? |
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Blue Hell
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:28 am Post subject:
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right
Yeah multiplexing would be possible, and then while you're at it for the NM Classic could amp the signal up a bit too ... let's say by 8 / 1.8 _________________ Jan
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Blue Hell
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:30 am Post subject:
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But not just using a clock .. you would need a frame sync too to sync up synthside and audio side channel numbering. _________________ Jan
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BobTheDog

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:46 am Post subject:
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Blue Hell wrote: | But not just using a clock .. you would need a frame sync too to sync up synthside and audio side channel numbering. |
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BobTheDog

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:47 am Post subject:
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Could that just be done with different voltages (on the clock signal) though? |
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Blue Hell
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:05 am Post subject:
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Possible, yes, hey we seem to re-invent analog TV  _________________ Jan
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varice

Joined: Dec 29, 2004 Posts: 961 Location: Northeastern shore of Toledo Bend
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:38 pm Post subject:
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avantronica wrote: | ...the voltages max out for me at 1.8 +/- on both the keys and mm... |
That seems to be too low. Are you sure that you are getting the maximum patch signal level to the output?
I found a note where I recorded several years ago that my G1 Rack could produce about 6.4 volts peak-to-peak before clipping. _________________ varice |
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klangumsetzer

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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:54 am Post subject:
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If you own for example the Moog CP-251 you can use the inbuilt attenuators to adjust the voltage. _________________ Make a joyful noise!
Eike |
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