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PLL 4046 for Beginners (Pitch-Tracking, too!)
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Ayab



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Will try +/- 6V as I happen to have a couple of spare L7906 from a Moog clone project.

"Everywhere you see -V, replace that with -6. Everywhere you see the ground symbol, replace that with +6" - OK!

If I use the attached L7906 circuit for converting -12v to -6V (& similar for +12V to +6V) would the only ground connections be from +/-12V psu ground to these +/-6V voltage regulator sub-circuits? There would be no ground connection to the PLL.

And this would need to be amplified.

If I chose +12V and ground I would not have to use the voltage regulator circuits but I would need to offset the output signal to centre it around 0V.

Thanks for your patience here. Sorry to be a so stupid but am hopefully learning! And hope this is useful for others.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ayab wrote:
Will try +/- 6V as I happen to have a couple of spare L7906 from a Moog clone project.

"Everywhere you see -V, replace that with -6. Everywhere you see the ground symbol, replace that with +6" - OK!

If I use the attached L7906 circuit for converting -12v to -6V (& similar for +12V to +6V) would the only ground connections be from +/-12V psu ground to these +/-6V voltage regulator sub-circuits? There would be no ground connection to the PLL.

And this would need to be amplified.

If I chose +12V and ground I would not have to use the voltage regulator circuits but I would need to offset the output signal to centre it around 0V.

Thanks for your patience here. Sorry to be a so stupid but am hopefully learning! And hope this is useful for others.


Yes, if you add and use a +/-6 supply powered off of the Eurorack supplies, then the ground for +/-6 volts is the same as for +/-12 volts. It is the only ground, the "system ground".

Yes, there is no true ground (as described above) connection anywhere in the PLL circuits. Only the +6v and -6v power rails are used. However, your input is ground referenced even tho there is no ground connection within the PLL circuits.

Yes, there may be a need to amplify the PLL output signal. It's not a small signal though, as it comes from the PLL circuit, it is a 12 volt peak to peak signal. Try it as is first and add an amplifier if needed.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks so much for confirming that Scott -you rock!!

Hope I manage to build it without frying too many bits -including myself. Will test with doubled up 9v batteries and a test oscillator so as not to fry my working modules.

(on a long train/bus journey and getting stuck into a forest mimes electronics for dummies and loving the handwriting and illustrations - and it is a fascinating read).
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