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G2-JARRE
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:01 am Post subject:
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I need some help with that Elka Synthex sound.
If any know the song from Jean Michel Jarre. _________________ Morten |
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elektro80
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:35 am Post subject:
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I am not familiar with the Jarre albums, but I had a Synthex on loan for a few months way way back. Anyway, we have the most excellent Carlo Serafini here, who might have suggestions .. check this thread:
http://electro-music.com/forum/post-17253.html
....on the other hand.. he does not own a G2... _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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elektro80
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:36 am Post subject:
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Morten? A norwegian? Kool! Welcome Morten! _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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pstnotpd
Joined: Apr 09, 2004 Posts: 34 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:19 am Post subject:
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Hi guys,
If y'all have any luck in figuring this out, could you please post advice on tuning my 'synthex emulation' which is in the patch archive?
I don't have a synthex myself so it's rather hard to compare.
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Patrick |
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mosc
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Joined: Jan 31, 2003 Posts: 18197 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject:
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to the forum, Morten. Glad to have you here... |
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G2-JARRE
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G2-JARRE
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:52 pm Post subject:
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Thanks
I looking forward to own a Clavia NordModular G 2X it sound great. _________________ Morten |
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ian-s
Joined: Apr 01, 2004 Posts: 2669 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:03 pm Post subject:
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G2-JARRE wrote: |
Here is a MP3 of the sound thanks to Per. |
Is that someone playing a real synthex? With a little reverb?
Can anyone describe what the second bandpass filter mode does? |
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G2-JARRE
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:45 am Post subject:
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Yes he own a Synthex and play RendezVous 4 but I am not sure he use Reverb.
I think Synthex is famous by it's Chorus.
I will look in the Manual(PDF) for Synthex for the BPF. _________________ Morten |
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pstnotpd
Joined: Apr 09, 2004 Posts: 34 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:39 am Post subject:
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According to the manual the first BP is a 6db, while the 2nd is a 12db filter.
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Patrick |
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G2-JARRE
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:53 am Post subject:
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pstnotpd wrote: | Hi guys,
If y'all have any luck in figuring this out, could you please post advice on tuning my 'synthex emulation' which is in the patch archive?
I don't have a synthex myself so it's rather hard to compare.
Cheers,
Patrick |
I can not find it but anyway I do not have The G2X yet. _________________ Morten |
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pstnotpd
Joined: Apr 09, 2004 Posts: 34 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:33 pm Post subject:
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Ah, it seems you're right. Probably only posted it on the old mailing list.
Anyway. It's in the Synth-Completed section now.
It's been a while since I made this and there were some tradeoffs to get a reasonable polyphony (especially when my G2 had no expansion)
Hope you guys want to help tune.....
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ian-s
Joined: Apr 01, 2004 Posts: 2669 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:47 pm Post subject:
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Hi everyone
Here is my not very good attempt.
pstnotpd, your patch shows a lot of attention to detail and can create some very good sounds. Apart from the .mp3, I don't know what a real synthex sounds like. They never made it to this part of the world.
http://electro-music.com/forum/post-17683.html#17683 |
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elektro80
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject:
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Did Seraph ( carlo ) ever discover this thread? He owned one for years and he might even have various recordings of it? _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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pstnotpd
Joined: Apr 09, 2004 Posts: 34 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:26 am Post subject:
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g2ian wrote: |
pstnotpd, your patch shows a lot of attention to detail and can create some very good sounds. |
Thanks. I took the advice from the Modular book to focus on 'user interface' and try to get the knobs to map logically. Igot stuck with the glide and the joystick. How would you do that with the 1 wheel and the pitch stick.......??
And I must admit I took a lot of the ideas from the nice synthex emulation on reaktor.
Could you please post back your tweaks as nortex C or something like that? I'd like to hear what you did with it.
And if anyone has the preset settings of the original Synthex so we might get somewhere with comparing the sounds?
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G2-JARRE
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 10:13 am Post subject:
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If you can poste a mp3 of it I do not have the G2 yet waiting on G2x.
I have 20 sound-demos from Elka Synthex. _________________ Morten |
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ian-s
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:25 am Post subject:
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I have made a small change to my original post. It contained an error in the distortion x-over (I was distorting the high band instead of the lower harmonics). I have also, swapped the Clavia distortion for Rob’s odd even distortion. The most prominent distortion components in a state variable filter come from the OTA (operational transconductance amplifier). The early ones had a very small linear working range so almost always produce significant amounts of distortion. Some say the distortion is close to valve preamp type distortion.
To be honest, the original on the mp3 has a sort of subtle ‘inner ear warming’ effect that I can’t explain (or duplicate). Maybe if I could look at the raw (un-chorused) brass wave, isolated from the bass, I might get some clues. I’m still not setup for making quality recordings so I can’t post an example. Lets hope your G2X is not far away. |
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G2-JARRE
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G2-JARRE
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:23 am Post subject:
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But any way thanks for trying to make Elka Synthex it still a great machine. _________________ Morten |
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mosc
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:39 am Post subject:
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G2-JARRE wrote: | If you like I can send you the Synthex manual it is in PDF and I also have Korg PS 3300 and MemoryMOOG in PDF. |
Why not post the PDF file in a new topic under How To's. Then it will always be available to whoever searches for it. If you need any help, just let me know via PM. |
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pstnotpd
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mosc
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject:
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pstnotpd wrote: | Maybe a manuals section would be nice? I've got a few... |
Well, pstnotpd (can't pronounce that), a great suggestion. I just created a manuals forum under "How Tos". Please have the honor to be the first to post to that forum. If you wish, you can upload the PDFs as attachments and then you won't need to host them yourself, or you can just post the link. Whatever... |
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pstnotpd
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:37 pm Post subject:
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It's a rather awkward one I admit, but I can get away with using this name on any forum.
I've uploaded the Elka Synthex PDF and going to do the other ones I have. An interesting one is the DS Evolver. I've tried to patch this on the G2 but I got 'less than satisfying' results so far. The feedback is a killer.
Also I would suggest posting the PDF's as links are disappearing by the day. |
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Afro88
Joined: Jun 20, 2004 Posts: 701 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:58 pm Post subject:
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pstnotpd wrote: | An interesting one is the DS Evolver. I've tried to patch this on the G2 but I got 'less than satisfying' results so far. The feedback is a killer. |
Yeah, I had a a crack at it a few weeks ago. Could never get the feedback working properly, and the delay on the evolver is a bit weird. The main thing that stopped me though was the modulation matrix that you would need: a 24x68 matrix!! Each LFO, Seq and env3 has 68 (or was it 66...) selectable destinations. Then you can use the 4 modulation routers to route a mod source (lfo, seq env's) to any mod destination (a choice of 68 again). A stupid amount of mixers, switches etc. would be needed to do this. Phew!
If you need any help, let me know. I've got a dsi evolver in my studio at the moment, so I could give you hand getting the sound right. |
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