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fonik

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:06 am Post subject:
revised 292c LPG PCB layout... Subject description: ... ready for (not only) press'n'peel blue. |
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just revised the layout and documentation on the 292c LPG:
http://www.modular.fonik.de/pdf/LPG_em.pdf
(if it does not show up right, try to download it before opening) _________________
cheers,
matthias
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etaoin

Joined: Jun 30, 2005 Posts: 761 Location: Utrecht, NL
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Funky40
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:45 am Post subject:
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ouhh, thanks,
But Matthias, can you please leave the old one also on your site ?
I personally love the very fast building on your modules because of Printmounted Pots or Sockets.
For Euro/Frac use it allows a real fast building. |
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fonik

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:51 am Post subject:
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okay funky, i will compile it into the new PDF... _________________
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matthias
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ericcoleridge

Joined: Jan 16, 2007 Posts: 889 Location: NYC
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:27 am Post subject:
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This is so great Fonik, thanks for another great layout!
Do you have any other projects in the works (so I can plan ahead)?
The only small problem I have with printing your layouts is that I can't cut and paste from a PDF (as far as I know). I have to print the whole page--which wastes alot of valuable press and peel real estate. |
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fonik

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject:
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ericcoleridge wrote: | This is so great Fonik, thanks for another great layout!
Do you have any other projects in the works (so I can plan ahead)?
The only small problem I have with printing your layouts is that I can't cut and paste from a PDF (as far as I know). I have to print the whole page--which wastes alot of valuable press and peel real estate. |
no need on wasting press'n'peel: just print it out on paper. fix a piece of p'n'p blue on the printout using scotch tape. put it into your printer again and print again!
photo essay _________________
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matthias
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krisp14u

Joined: Nov 11, 2006 Posts: 206 Location: uk
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject:
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Hay matthias cheers for this
there wil be 2 going in the modular this week
cheers paul _________________ Cheers
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ericcoleridge

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject:
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fonik wrote: | ericcoleridge wrote: | This is so great Fonik, thanks for another great layout!
Do you have any other projects in the works (so I can plan ahead)?
The only small problem I have with printing your layouts is that I can't cut and paste from a PDF (as far as I know). I have to print the whole page--which wastes alot of valuable press and peel real estate. |
no need on wasting press'n'peel: just print it out on paper. fix a piece of p'n'p blue on the printout using scotch tape. put it into your printer again and print again!
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Well, I wish I asked you about this sooner... I've been using whole sheets for each layout. I'm not always the brightest bulb in the box. |
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fonik

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:07 am Post subject:
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fonik wrote: | okay funky, i will compile it into the new PDF... |
i incorporated the old docs into the file available via my site (different than link above)... _________________
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matthias
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goldenechos
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:48 am Post subject:
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I built the original layout of this 292, and I have to say, it sounds great.
Very useful.
Glad to see you tied up the unused op-amp in this layout!
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loss1234

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goldenechos
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:57 am Post subject:
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loss1234 wrote: | i am a bit confused as to how this circuit works or what it does. is it just a gate or is it more like a filter?
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Either or a a little of both. There are sound examples at the Plan b website.
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fonik

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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject:
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corrected BOM for the revised 292c LPG layout:
R4, R9, R10 are 100k! _________________
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matthias
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asafnetzer
Joined: Jun 16, 2007 Posts: 112 Location: Israel
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:12 am Post subject:
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Looks great Fonik,
Just wondering, if anyone here is willing to etch me a board as well I'll pay for the work and shipping.
Press'n'peel is unavailable in Israel and I don't have any other components for the etching process, Stripboard is my thing
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guitarfool

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject:
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fonik wrote: | corrected BOM for the revised 292c LPG layout:
R4, R9, R10 are 100k! |
NOW you tell me
(Actually, I went by the values on the schematic).
I didn't do the resonance modification. Has anyone tried it yet? |
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zthee

Joined: Feb 20, 2008 Posts: 414 Location: Stockholm
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:56 am Post subject:
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I just started to build 2 of these, but with the old documentation
Just need the vactrol and the usual wires to pots and stuff like that. Hope to be done within a week or so!
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Coriolis

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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:05 am Post subject:
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Quote: | Press'n'peel is unavailable in Israel |
I can't get it directly from a vendor in my country either, but smallbear.com has it in single sheets, and I actually splashed some cash and bought a pack of 20 sheets direct from the manufacturer techniks.com
The rest of the gear for etching is easy too: I use ferric chloride (should be available from where ever you go to buy household chemicals), some tupperware for the etching bath, rubber gloves, etc. Only thing that might cost a bit is a Dremel or similar (I have a Proxxon) drill with a stand. I suppose you can use a normal electric drill, but the stand for it is mandatory, because those tiny 0,8mm drills break easily.
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Edit: Just found this!
http://www.pcb-store.com/ |
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fonik

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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:09 am Post subject:
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some people get very good results with paper from weekly magazines or catalogues. google for it (don't have the link on hand right now). _________________
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matthias
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ericcoleridge

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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:52 am Post subject:
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For me, press n' peel works the best; But I've successfully used glossy inkjet printer paper in the past. I've also read where people describe glossy magazine paper (just ripped from a magazine) as working best of all. |
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asafnetzer
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:12 am Post subject:
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If I'll walk to a store in Israel and ask for chemicals I'll get arrested
No actually I really don't have any more space in my apartment for anything, even the dog is afraid to sit on the floor cause all the stuff laying there. |
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zthee

Joined: Feb 20, 2008 Posts: 414 Location: Stockholm
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:48 am Post subject:
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Just finished my dual LPG!
I think something is wrong with the gate part though. Does anyone who built it got a sound sample of it?
I just wanna verify that it sounds like it should!  |
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fonik

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widdly
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject:
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I built one of these last night on a piece of perf board using a bunch of parts I had in my junk box.
I added a 100k attenuator on the trigger input. It's handy in filter mode.
I left out C5 and R5. I can't quite work out what they are for. Anyone tell what they are meant to do?
For D1, I didn't have a 3.5v zener so I used a 5v. I'm guessing the zener here is to stop the LED's from getting blown by too much voltage. Any the zener is for?
I didn't have a 20k trimmer so I left out R7 and used a 50k trimmer.
I made my own vactors using two LEDs and two LDRs. The LDRs were two different sorts . Only problem is getting the LED/LDR combo light tight..at the moment it works ok if I put it under a t-shirt I think I'll do something with heat shrink and lots of electrical tape.
It sounds really great, much like the samples from fonic above. I was kind of surprised given the hokey nature of my "vactrols" and my liberal interpretation of the schematic. Last edited by widdly on Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:12 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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zthee

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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:36 am Post subject:
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fonik wrote: | helo zthee,
my apologies for this late reply. hope you have some fun with your LPGs anyways.
here is a short sample of the LPG.
square wave into LPG, offset fully clockwise, pulse from CGS utility LFO into LPG.
8 pulses in each mode: 1st filter mode, 2nd gate mode, 3rd both. |
Sounds exactly as mine!
What a relif
Thanks for the upload! |
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fonik

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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject:
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good to hear. i am using the LPG in filter mode most of the time. only sometimes i use it at VCA... _________________
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matthias
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