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Oskar

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:28 am Post subject:
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When stuck in a rut, it's often seen as productive to change some parameters in your workflow.
My favourite tack is tuning my guitar differently. Here are some of my favourites, low to high:
Drop-D: D-A-D-G-B-E
Doubledrop-D: D-A-D-G-B-D
Dadgad: D-A-D-G-A-D
Open G: D-G-D-G-B-D
Open D: D-A-D-#F-A-D
G6: D-G-D-G-B-E
G "modal": C-G-D-G-B-E
I also have a 3/4 size cheapo Morgan electro-acoustic tuned
A-D-G-C-E-A
And my Irish Bouzouki:
G-D-A-E
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F-C-G-D
By no means a compleat list of tunings, but I was wondering if any of our members like to fool around with other tunings, possibly combined with different playing techniques. Do Ya? _________________ Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
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Oskar

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:29 am Post subject:
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Actually, I forgot to mention that when playing solo acoustic on stage, I don't really tune to concert pitch, which means I often end up somewhere between a half step and a whole step below concert. _________________ Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
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RF

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:40 am Post subject:
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Thanks for listing those tunings, Oskar.
I use DADGAD and Drop D every now and then - But there are some you listed I've never tried. Something for experimenting...
My wife, on the other hand is twisting tuners all the time. I often have no idea what she's doing...but it sounds great.
bruce _________________ www.sdiy.org/rfeng
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Oskar

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:45 am Post subject:
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RF wrote: | Thanks for listing those tunings, Oskar.
I use DADGAD and Drop D every now and then - But there are some you listed I've never tried. Something for experimenting...
My wife, on the other hand is twisting tuners all the time. I often have no idea what she's doing...but it sounds great.
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She wouldn't happen to be called Joni, would she?  _________________ Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
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DrJustice

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:45 am Post subject:
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Say, don't you have to work hard to keep track of chords and scales in all those different tunings? I understand that some use alternative tunings to make certain songs (and chords/keys?) easier to play, but I know that at this stage of learning, the idea of having the notes shift around neck is a rather scary prospect...
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Oskar

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:49 am Post subject:
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Spot on, DrJ! That is both scary AND exhilarating, without carrying the extra risk of, say, whitewater rafting or base jumping (as in parachuting off a high cliff)!  _________________ Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
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DrJustice

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:56 am Post subject:
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Ah, just as I feared then. I suppose I'll know when I'm ready for that extra kick - a good few years down the road
BTW, isn't this where a robot guitar might come into its own, if you have to go through several tunings during a gig?
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seraph
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:58 am Post subject:
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I have seen/heard those scary Line6 Variax guitars where you can select different tunings without changing the pitch of a single string.
http://line6.com/variax/workbench.html _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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DrJustice

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:12 am Post subject:
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seraph wrote: | I have seen/heard those scary Line6 Variax guitars where you can select different tunings without changing the pitch of a single string. |
Yes, just like the VG-99 that some of us here on EM have. I find it slightly disturbing to have the string play it's 'physical' pitch, and then another pitch comes out of the speakers. I guess it will be better if you crank up the volume so you mask the direct sound of the strings, or use headphones. Again, I reckon a robot guitar would be the right tool for the job (yeah, yeah, I know it's not hardcore to not tune manually )
Edit to add: please forgive me for going on about robot tuning, it's just that I think it's sort of like the move from horse and carriage to cars, or from oil lamps to light bulbs. Or perhaps I'm just utterly misguided, and it's only neat in the same way as digital watches with LED readouts were once thought to be
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BobTheDog

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:24 am Post subject:
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THE VG99 does offer the extra ability to slide between two different tunings with the expression pedal as well which is really neat. |
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Oskar

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:36 am Post subject:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Standard_Tuning _________________ Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
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Oskar

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:39 am Post subject:
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BobTheDog wrote: | THE VG99 does offer the extra ability to slide between two different tunings with the expression pedal as well which is really neat. |
It is! I borrowed my mate's ole VG-8 - or was it VG-88? - 8-9 years ago, and i enjoyed that particular trick immensely, especially ccombined with some slide work - it allowed me to achieve as good an approximation of pedal steel as I'll ever be able to.  _________________ Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
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Wout Blommers

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:46 am Post subject:
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DrJustice wrote: | Say, don't you have to work hard to keep track of chords and scales in all those different tunings? I understand that some use alternative tunings to make certain songs (and chords/keys?) easier to play, but I know that at this stage of learning, the idea of having the notes shift around neck is a rather scary prospect...
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-- | As long as you are leaving behind you the idea alternative tuning is done to play more easier It's the sound which it makes, its character! I often use the open D tuning on my 12 string guitar, which has the G doubled instead of the octave string, and use it to play the blues, folk songs and etnic music, like the string music from Naples, you know, mandolin, autoharp and 12 string (with a capo) to be added to the flutes, percussion and vocals. Lets dance the Tarantula
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Oskar

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:50 am Post subject:
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Wout Blommers wrote: | Lets dance the Tarantula
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Wout, I'd love to, but I've got Arachnophobia; I WILL dance the Tarantella, though!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantella _________________ Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
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Wout Blommers

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:56 am Post subject:
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The same here!
(It's the place where you can find me in the ZOO! DrJ, this is really scary
BTW damn SpellCheck (Wow, what an excuse!)
More BTW That SpellCheck still doesn't recognize 'SpellCheck'
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Antimon
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:25 am Post subject:
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I'm constantly scared of having a string snap in my face or on my fingers when I'm experimenting with tunings. I've been safe so far (touch wood). Any war stories?
I have one of my gits tuned to something like E1 E1 E1 B2 B2 B2. With a slide thingy and heavy distortion I can get a pretty massive sound with that.
/Stefan _________________ Antimon's Window
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Oskar

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:32 am Post subject:
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Antimon wrote: | I have one of my gits tuned to something like E1 E1 E1 B2 B2 B2. With a slide thingy and heavy distortion I can get a pretty massive sound with that./Stefan |
Another cool thing to do in that type of tuning is exploit the inherent drone possibilities, sounding like a Norwegian "Langeleik" and "Hardanger Fiddle" or the Finnish "Kantele" - or maybe even a zither or an autoharp thingy. _________________ Where there are too many policemen, there is no liberty. Where there are too many soldiers, there is no peace. Where there are too many lawyers, there is no justice.
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DrJustice

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