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Luka

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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:36 am Post subject:
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No, they'll be fine.
I actually didn't connect any socket grounds at the panel, only functional grounds such as the bottom of the sliders etc. I've added a simple +/-15V PSU, and connected the mains ground to the case, and 0V. So the sockets all get their reference off the case. Works fine. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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Scott Stites
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:13 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Build doc page 55.
"Analogue Board J1" and "Analogue Board J3"
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"Digital Board J1" and "Digital Board J3"
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Holy cow, you're right! That just blows my mind - the illustrations are particularly troublesome to do with my setup, so I swear I went through each one several times - yet........
Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. I'll add it to the erratum and incorporate it into build 5, which should come out probably a week after every Klee has been built
I won't be able to issue a correction page 'til about Monday or so.
Cheers,
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Scott Stites
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:36 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Holy cow, you're right! That just blows my mind - the illustrations are particularly troublesome to do with my setup, so I swear I went through each one several times - yet........
Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. I'll add it to the erratum and incorporate it into build 5, which should come out probably a week after every Klee has been built
I won't be able to issue a correction page 'til about Monday or so. |
Wait..wait...wait. The illustration is correct! Sorry, no morning coffee - the gate bus switch connections do come off the Analogue board. I looked at the illustration and thought "pattern switch".
Cheerios,
Caffeinated Scott _________________ My Site |
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Pehr

Joined: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 1307 Location: Björkvik, Sweden
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Scott Stites
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:12 am Post subject:
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Righto! _________________ My Site |
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject:
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| Scott Stites wrote: | 1K is the default value for R33 only if you want 8V fixed range there.
Otherwise, you select the value of R33 depending on how much maximum voltage you want to be able to dial up on your variable range. A larger value of voltage will allow you to swing the variable range around more, but a lower voltage will make it easier to set smaller increments.
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R33 forms a voltage divider with the variable range pot, which is 100K, so it sets how much voltage will actually be available at the wiper pot. The applied voltage at the top of the divider is 10V. |
so what to do if i don't use a potentiometer but just a bare input socket without attenuation? 100k as common impedance? _________________
cheers,
matthias
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Scott Stites
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject:
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You could tack a 100K resistor from the tip lug of the input jack to the ground lug, that would do it! _________________ My Site |
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fonik

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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject:
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| Scott Stites wrote: | | You could tack a 100K resistor from the tip lug of the input jack to the ground lug, that would do it! |
thank you for the fast reply, scott. now i see! since i just use the "external only" option i omit R33. _________________
cheers,
matthias
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fonik

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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject:
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so sorry, scott. i did not use the current interconnect file so i was missing page 9, showing the variable voltage options! now i see R33 is influent for the option i chose, because it is not connected to anything  _________________
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matthias
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a.b.o.z.

Joined: Feb 07, 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject:
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I just started solderin analogue board..
and first thing I'm not shure is... what values are 100R resistors? R49-R57 |
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guitarfool

Joined: Feb 26, 2007 Posts: 161 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject:
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| a.b.o.z. wrote: | I just started solderin analogue board..
and first thing I'm not shure is... what values are 100R resistors? R49-R57 |
"100R" = 100 ohms
Common nomenclature is "R" for ohms, "M" for mega-ohms and "K" for kilo-ohms. Nowadays, most people follow the euro tradition of putting one of the 3 letters where the decimal point would be, such as:
"1K5" = 1.5 kilo-ohms, "2M2" = 2.2 mega-ohms |
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a.b.o.z.

Joined: Feb 07, 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject:
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oh so simple. thnx  |
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Pehr

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Scott Stites
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:00 am Post subject:
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Yes, they should be negative. I thought I'd fixed that!  _________________ My Site |
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a.b.o.z.

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:18 am Post subject:
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one question..
for now I will mostly use klee with two MFOS soundlabs.
what voltages do i need?
5 or 10? |
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Scott Stites
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:33 am Post subject:
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I'd go for the 10V range myself. Actual voltage will be 9V.
A quick look at the design shows Ray's got 9.1V zeners on the gate input, so there's nothing to worry about in that regard.
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Scott _________________ My Site |
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Pehr

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Tronato
Joined: Sep 21, 2007 Posts: 274 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject:
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Hello Genltlemen!
Hope you've all had a great holiday!
I regained conciousness yesterday morning!
How are you all powering the klee?
Thanks!
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Uncle Krunkus
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Joined: Jul 11, 2005 Posts: 4761 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject:
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I built my own little +/-15V supply and installed it in the case. Just a 7VA 15-0-15 transformer, fuse, rectifier, 2200uFs, 7815/7915, 100nFs and out to the boards. Works fine. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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Pehr

Joined: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 1307 Location: Björkvik, Sweden
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Alienation

Joined: Jul 23, 2007 Posts: 47 Location: Midsouth
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:09 am Post subject:
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Ken Stone's CGS66 power supply pcb is going into mine, you can get the parts for it from Jameco with little hassle perusing their catalog.
I have to say Ken Stone's stuff has helped tremendously with getting the Klee off the desk and into action.
I also used his LED buffer circuit pcb. |
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Tronato
Joined: Sep 21, 2007 Posts: 274 Location: Florida
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:12 am Post subject:
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Hello Alienation!
Ken Stones' CGS 66 is precisely the one I'm building but I have great doubts regarding the orientation of the voltage regulators.
Looking at it with tha 4 diodes in square formation to your left should the part of the regulators that have the letters/numbers printed both be visible?
Do you have a picture of it?
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Tronato
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject:
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Hello!
This is an e-mail I sent to Ken Scott which left me with more doubts than answers regarding the CGS 66 regulated power supply...
By the way I would still like to know the orientation of the Voltage Regulator IC's...
The transformer is a Stancor P-8693 and it's specifications apppear
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the following page:
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http://www.newark.com/jsp/content/printCatalog.jsp?display=single&cat=cat125
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> Will this work?
This one will only work if the outer wires are wired between 0V and
18VAC
pads on the circuit board, and the center tap is NOT USED.
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Alienation

Joined: Jul 23, 2007 Posts: 47 Location: Midsouth
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject:
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I'm using a Jameco transformer part # 149957 on page 171 in the catalog-$9.59 USD.
Ken Stone is pretty clear in his description of wiring for the transformer. 18V split off the secondary center tap to ground.
Also check the silkscreened orientation on the CGS66 PCB for the Voltage regulators they are marked as to mounting position. Ken recommends heat sinks and gives specifics on the type to use, these too can be found @ Jameco.
Hope this helps. |
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