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Help: No luck with SRAM Battery Change! Are my patches gone?
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chowderdoof



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:11 am    Post subject:  Help: No luck with SRAM Battery Change! Are my patches gone? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello,

Can anybody help me?

I have a Pretec Sram 2bm card only a few years old which I thought needed a battery chance as Andy was booting up with "card error or uninitialized card push store to initialize".

Ive just changed the battery with a Panasonic BR2325 but Im still getting the above error message. I have checked the battery position with no luck so does this mean Ive lost my patches and if so is there any way I can get them back?

I dont have a sysex back up Sad

So can anybody suggest any ideas that I can try?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Changed the battery again - just in case - still no luck!

I guess if it cannot save patches I will initialize card but I will wait for some feedback from an experienced Andromedea user just incase I can save them somehow - still optimistic here - eeeek!!! Shocked

Is there a sram card reader I could use to back up to my computer the sysex dump back to Andy I wonder *sigh*
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sorry to say, but: no battery, no SRAM. That's the whole point of having the battery. SRAM only stores its contents when power is available to maintain it, otherwise it would be flash memory.
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chowderdoof



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for your reply!

I thought the card had two batteries and you could take one out and replace it within 20 min you have your patches but I couldn't get it to work Crying or Very sad

Reinitialized the card tonight sad day after losing 8 banks - guess I'll have to be more careful and back them up next time!

Kind of stupid thou isn't it? how do you know if the batteries going to die? Are you meant to change them regularly or something?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Products are often made with a certain maximal life time in mind ... one example is this battery issue .. it is not uncommon to design for a battery life of ten years.

But it is not just batteries having such issues, later devices store data into Flash memory, which also has a limited storage time ... and yes it is impossible to say when the device would actually be gone, likely it will last longer than the design time .. but you really need to backup stuff ...

Oh CDROM, Harddisk, everything will stop working after some time passed .. so you'd want to cycle the backups over media too from time to time .. keep it in a couple of places, and check the validity from time to time.

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