updated 7/29: editor enhancements and module requests

[cebec]

IMPORTANT NOTE: This list is only a partial one and represents nothing other than my attempt to collate as many of the wishes and requests from the Nord Modular list and forum as possible.

Many of these, for example, are my personal suggestions and wishes and therefore are not always accompanied with a referring link. Please see the rest of the Wish List forum, and elsewhere for a more complete picture.

* Please, suggest additions/changes/clarifications *
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Contents:
. Pressing Issues/Bugs
. Editor enhancement requests
.... From 2.1b
.... From 3.03
.... New
. Module/Other requests
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Pressing Issues/Bugs:

1. Are delay lines and other modules using 16 bit RAM, actually 16 bits? Are signals being truncated or dithered? Are 24 bit versions implementable via user selection or via alternate modules? Manual v. 1.3_ claims external (non-DSP) RAM is 24 bit.

Addendum/Clarification by 7om/cebec on 7/26:

As it has been described to 7om by Clavia support, only the delays and reverb are 16-bit.

A. All 16-bit modules, such as the delays and the reverb, should be documented as such in the manual, including technical details of 16-bit implementation, e.g., how the signals are en-/de-coded and whether the signals are truncated or dithered.

B. Add a 24-bit delay module, or a switch to existing delay modules, which provides for 24-bit operation. It is understood that this comes at the expense of delay time.

3. H(ide) cable state does not seem to be saved with patch.

Editor enhancement requests:

From 2.1b

1. Templates, Calculator

From 3.03 -

1. Long module names which showed in their entirety in the NM Classic 3.03 editor do not in the G2's. They are abbreviated, as 'EnvFollo..1' instead of 'EnvFollower1'.

2. Filter and Oscillator modules only posess one pitch modulation attenuator instead of the two on the 'equivalent' NM Classic 3.03 modules. Maybe this is to save DSP power and you can use a mixer instead? I would like the old attenuator back, personally.

New -

1. Keyboard and menu shortcuts to MIDI Controller Assignments.

2. Ability to disable module auto-optimization for the elimination of muting when changing or making new signal connections. The NM1, presumably because it doesn't feature auto-optimizing modules/signal bandwidths, does not mute the audio under these conditions. This 'feature' is beneficial for live performance or improvisatory patching.

3. The possibility to assign a parameter to several knobs on the front panel and not just 1 knob.

4. Send all CC#s on patch/variation/perf. change.

5. Knob exclusion on parameter change.

6. MIDI module send on/off flag.

7. Right-click/Duplicate -- copies and pastes a duplicate of whichever module or group of modules is selected. The paste may not result in the placement of the selection, i.e., it will 'hover' or it could be placed slightly offset from the duplicated selection, a la Reaktor.

8. Miniaturize all, a selection, or individual modules -- they retain full functionality but have a range of sizes: 25, 50, 75, 100%. This would obviously allow more modules to fit in a smaller area.

9. Direct entry of values into module number fields.

see here: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-6195.html

10. Bi-directional selectors, e.g., cycling through the Step or Edge of a RandomA or B module, for example is in one direction, only. The enhancement should allow users to select options from a dropdown menu or left click/or key + click to cycle in the opposite direction or a combination of user-assignable keys could be used to directly select options from within each module.

This enhancement could be extended to allow user-defined QWERTY control over any module's parameters, whether they are waveform selection or Envelope response curve.

see here: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-5205.html

Note: Perhaps even USB keyboards (and other devices) could be connected to the G2s USB port when not in use and be used as an additional controller.

11. Building Blocks -- Like Macros or sub-circuits that can be saved and loaded into a patch/slot without having to use another patch/slot to first load, then copy, then paste them. The precursor exists in the NM Classic OS/Editor 2.10b, as Templates. They can be set up beforehand and dropped into any patch. There's no right-click menu to select from the template list, though, and IMO this would be a worthy update.

see here: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-2995.html

Note: A step further could be the building blocks' un-/encapsulation with a right-click/selection, with specific internal inputs and outputs designated as the encapsulated building blocks' main I/O -- sort of an extension of and refinement of the 'Reaktor macro' scheme.

12. Option to delete all cables in a patch or in a selected group of modules with a right click or combination of key/click.

see here: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-5748.html

13. Access to at least 256 colors for panel and/or cable.

14. Larger character limit in text pad

15. More variations and the ability to name and have pop-up/flyover 'help' on the variation selection buttons.

Module/Other requests:

1. 24 bit delay modules (see #1 under 'Pressing Issues/Bugs', above)

2. Steven Taylor posted this succinct request on the mailing list for types of modules that I've been longing for lately, as well:

"I want feedback -- live value displays that can be placed inline... for
debugging, or maybe dumped to a text file at a set refresh rate, I
don't care how heavy they might be on processor or graphics refresh.. I
would take them out for final versions of the patch."

3. Additional anti-aliasing and/or a switch to enable additional anti-aliasing and/or a module that allows blue to red conversion for any signal type (we know this last one's 'in there', thanks to you-know-who-you-are)

4. Fixed Filter Bank -- see NM Classic 3.03

see here: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-3098.html

5. Sine Bank -- see NM Classic 3.03

6. Formant Oscillator -- see NM Classic 3.03

7. Spectral Oscillator (NM Classic 3.03 style)

8. Chaos module(s) with multiple types

9. Quad Panner

10. Mixer4 w/ invert -- like Mixer2 w/ invert but with 4 inputs + chain

11. LFOShapeB -- guess it's coming since there's an 'A'. This would be the LFO equiv. of OscShapeB.

12. Mixer Stereo 4 Input w/Pan -- Half of the current Mixer Stereo (which has 8 inputs).

13. Mixer Stereo 4 and 8 Input w/Pan should also have on/off buttons for each input (see Mixer 8-1 Fader).

14. Math modules (+, -, *, /, %)

see here: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-3070.html

15. Bi-directional and more advanced Sequencer option(s)/module(s)

see here: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-3060.html

16. Signal level/value indicator modules -- 1 in/out and multi-in/out numeric value displays and LED-style signal level indicators for troubleshooting, etc.

see here: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-5253.html

17. Microtuning module or facility to fully support MIDI Tuning standard.

18. Wavetable module

see here: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-5115.html

19. Free draw Oscillator, LFO, Envelope, and Shaper modules

20. Clocked Increment/Decrement Stepper module

see here: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-3035.html

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[egw]

[mother misty]

[egw]

You're right! I must have been thinking about the old editor.

[cebec]

really? then maybe it's a setting on XP that's preventing it from working for me... i can't get it to happen on either the demo or the editor on either of my PCs.

[mosc]

It doesn't automatically scroll for me on XP either. If someone knows how to get it to scroll, please post it here.

[cappy2112]

[ian-s]

Standard in Windows? That’s a new oxymoron!

Mouse scroll wheel support has been around for ages but even the latest versions of Office don’t support it in the VBA code editor. That annoys the hell out of me.

While I’m OT I thought of a new koan the other day while watching someone’s driving.

“Is it ok to drive the wrong way down a one way street, so long as you do it in reverse?”

[jksuperstar]

g2ian, you're not OT, you're just in 3T.

http://www.electro-music.com/forum/topic-6300.html&highlight=koan

http://www.electro-music.com/forum/topic-6299.html&highlight=oxy+moron

[sebber]

I've got XP, too, and I thought the editor wouldn't scroll. I found out that the editor scrolls when I move with the mouse to the end of the VA and FX-area SLOWLY.
When I go too fast and the mouse pointer reaches the toolbar, there's no scrolling. I assume windows then "thinks" I really want to go in the other area.

[cebec]

AH! you're right, seb! thanks... SLOWLY is the key...

[cebec]

I updated the list at the top.

[cebec]

i updated the list at the top with the following wish and edits

wish:

2. Miniaturize all, a selection, or individual modules -- they retain full functionality but have a range of sizes: 25, 50, 75, 100%. This would obviously allow more modules to fit in a smaller area.

edit:

5. Building Blocks -- Like Macros or sub-circuits that can be saved and loaded into a patch/slot without having to use another patch/slot to first load, then copy, then paste them. The precursor exists in the NM Classic OS/Editor 2.10b, as Templates. They can be set up beforehand and dropped into any patch. There's no right-click menu to select from the template list, though, and IMO this would be a worthy update.

see here: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-2995.html

Note: A step further could be the building blocks' un-/encapsulation with a right-click/selection, with specific internal inputs and outputs designated as the encapsulated building blocks' main I/O -- sort of an extension of and refinement of the 'Reaktor macro' scheme.

[mother misty]

I would like to see another feature in the editor aswell,

> the possibility to assign a parameter to several knobs on the front panel and not just 1 knob.

[cebec]

Added another wish/enhancement based on observations made during the course of patching on the NM1:

1. Ability to disable module auto-optimization for the elimination of muting when changing or making new signal connections. The NM1, presumably because it doesn't feature auto-optimizing modules/signal bandwidths, does not mute the audio under these conditions. This 'feature' is beneficial for live performance or improvisatory patching.

[mosc]

From what I remember, the NM1 does go silent when you add or move patch cords just like the G2. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

[blue hell]

Interesting .. false memories. The NM Classic only silenced on module insertion or deletion (and patch changes of course, which is a lot of deletions and insertions at once).

Ja.

[mosc]

[The Why Project]

[cebec]

added a new one:

1. Steven Taylor posted this succinct request on the mailing list for types of modules that I've been longing for lately, as well:

"I want feedback, live value displays that can be placed inline.. for
debugging, or maybe dumped to a text file at a set refresh rate, I
don't care how heavy they might be on processor or graphics refresh.. I
would take them out for final versions of the patch.

The excuse used to be that the NM couldn't handle it because the editor
link was midi, but now it's USB..."

[mosc]

The live value display can be accomplished with other modules to some degree. For instance, you can use the output meter on the output module or you can use a compressor. You can use the MIDI CC send and then assign a constant knob to be controlled by that value. I agree a nice display module would be very nice, but one can get by without it.

[richard s]

the editor is still extremely difficult to use for the 10% who are likely to have a problem with some degree of colour-blindness. THis has pretty much stopped me getting to grips with my G2 engine. (

Richard

[7om]

[cebec]

[jamos]

Why is this topic somehow considered to be "the" wish list? Isn't the entire forum the wish list? Shouldn't individual wishes get their own topics, rather than being lumped in here?