mental sequencers

trash · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Brighton YAY!

anyone know what the best sequencers are for complete live control..?
like i mean using faders to completely mash a sequence
i mean like aphex or bogdan on acid or something....
like for example watcha ma face it you know
numerology .. any good ?
ive got it but cant be bothered to work it out
unless i know what it does ...
what about max sequencers ?
or reaktor ?
what about burnt toast ?
camel toe
and stuff
anyone got these working ?
i cant ...
mind you im a bit clueless..

or how about kyma ?
anyone use the capybara here ?
ive got hold of one for a bit ....
any nice patches for that ?

cheers n beers

xxx

mosc · Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:04 am Post subject:

Man, an open question. There are two different definitions of sequencer - a recording device or program, now often called a DAW, Digital Audio Workstation, and a step sequencer - modeled on the original Moog and Buchla sequencers used in their modular synthesizers.

Kyma is arguably the most powerful system out. It is expensive but it combines incredibly powerful software with a great hardwire engine - up to 27 DSPs and 8 pro quality I/Os. I have one of these. The problem - long learning curve. There are many many factory pathces - called "sounds". You probaby never need to learn the innards of this system, but it is totally open should you care to explore something in depth. Kyma is very serious.

If you want something with for real time performance, not too hard to learn and able to mangle stuff with good looping cabability, I would look at Ableton Live version 4. I've no experience with it myself, but it looks like a winner. People who have it say it is quite nice.

I'm sure other people will chime it. Also see: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-1815.html

play · Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:34 pm Post subject:

many musicians have taken advantage of this system: http://www.ibva.com/

and remarkably, it's cheaper than a kyma station. Of course, there aren't any synthesis components or anything. It's just a very nifty controller.

trash · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Brighton YAY!

actually that would be cool
but i aint got the money for all that
im just borrowing mr kyma for a bit...
actually m living with a guy who has one
and hes going away
errr. yeah i just want a midi sequencer
with some faders on or something
my brain is already nearly gone
dont wanna tax it anymore...
what about some kyma patches then!!!???
oh go on pleeeeease

mosc · Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:55 pm Post subject:

IBVA is quite amusing. Glad to see they support Linux, only not yet. Do you have one of these?

As for Kyma, the system has thousands of sounds already. I assume your friend had the new book, Kyma X Revealed. rummage though his personal stuff and I'm sure you'll find it. Kyma user's keep them in strange places. Look in the kitchen, often between the sugar and the coffee. It's an excellent book - indispensable. The entire book is a tutorial.

If I posted a sound or timeline, you wouldn't know how to play it without first getting exposed to the system. My sounds are really just factory ones with different parameters. Besides, Kyma "sounds" are really programs. They can access and manipulate disk files on your computer that I'd have t upload as well to make them work.

From the gist of your posts, I'm thinking that you and Kyma aren't exactly compatable. This is just a guess of course. But Kyma isn't really for someone whose

" brain is already nearly gone
dont wanna tax it anymore... "

I've learned that the hard way...

trash · Joined: Aug 27, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Brighton YAY!

ive messed around with it
im probably more technical than i first made out...
i think i can handle it...
well i just got some audio inputs
so im gonna plug it in and see!

krissy out

jksuperstar · Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:57 pm Post subject:

Yeah, IBVA is nice...but is also very available through an Open source hardware project called "OpenEEG"...they have hardware, and several software programs (it's developed on linux, though can be used on MAC or Cygwin/windows)..net server, and a brain -> MIDI converter as well.

http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/

I've been working on a version of the "SoundcardEEG" that could then be used with my nord audio ins....(insert evil mad scientist laugh)...but this is an entirely different thread!