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Parts ordering from Mouser
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Parts ordering from Mouser
Subject description: A soundlab kit order?
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I was just trying to price out parts for the Soundlab mini synth at mouser electronics.

After entering in all of the parts (Except pots and switches, which Small Bear seems to have MUCH cheaper!)

I noticed this on the shopping cart page:

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To Save this Order as a project,
Log In or create a My Mouser account.


So, maybe someone has placed a complete order for Soundlab parts, and saved it as a "project"?

I was thinking it would be cool, and helpful to many of us, if we could just somehow have an entire order sheet, all filled out, with the correct parts and values, that we could just order from/with?

Am I making any sense?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

IMO, the project feature has been one of the best tools for ordering parts on the internet. I use it all of the time.
As far as a project file for the SLMS, its not a bad idea, but i'm not sure if there is a way to export an actual file and load it to another users account. This can be solved with mouser's second best tool: BOM Import. A text file, which can be easily shared/modified by everyone, would contain part#'s and quantities of each component used. This can then be fed into the BOM importer and it (usually) spits out an order, which can then be saved as a project. Ray has something approximating this on his page, but since ROHS and progress and all of that bother, the list is not as accurate as it used to be. I have no problem taking this one on, if a little interest is generated from this thread.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

goodrevdoc wrote:
IMO, the project feature has been one of the best tools for ordering parts on the internet. I use it all of the time.
As far as a project file for the SLMS, its not a bad idea, but i'm not sure if there is a way to export an actual file and load it to another users account. This can be solved with mouser's second best tool: BOM Import. A text file, which can be easily shared/modified by everyone, would contain part#'s and quantities of each component used. This can then be fed into the BOM importer and it (usually) spits out an order, which can then be saved as a project. Ray has something approximating this on his page, but since ROHS and progress and all of that bother, the list is not as accurate as it used to be. I have no problem taking this one on, if a little interest is generated from this thread.
-justin


I am QUITE sure that others would find this useful. Maybe post the BOM file here (or somewhere, maybe the Music From OuterSpace site, Ray willing)

I made out a "project" order, but didnt send it or make the actual order (Im not ready to buy just yet, I was pricing the parts) But I am not entirely sure that I 'ordered' all of the CORRECT parts.

PLUS, it looks to me like buying the pots and switches from Bear is a LOT cheaper then from Mouser.

What IS "ROHS"? Im not hip to a lot of the terminology?

On another thought I had while shopping: I wonder if there is enough interest that it would be worth my (or anyone elses) while to kit together all of the parts for Soundlabs, and offer them for sale? Other then Elby, I'm not aware of anyone else currently doing this?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ROHS is a standard for reducing toxic waste and promoting low-emissions in factories. For many electronics, this boils down to no lead (as in- Pb -the element). This effects components that have parts for soldering, since lead was a common component to reduce the melting temperature of solder, as well as make it "flow" better. Newer solders typically need higher temps, and aren't as easily repairable as the "old" stuff. For hobbies, it really doesn't matter, but many of the non-ROHS parts are disappearing from the stock shelves, so you need to use the new part numbers.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I am QUITE sure that others would find this useful.

agreed.
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Maybe post the BOM file here

as soon as i get a file together, i'll definitely post it here.

As far as pots/ switches go, small bear, futurlec, and others have mouser beat hands down. (especially switches!) But in the interest of one stop shopping, i'll try to include these items, possibly in a separate section so they can be excluded if so desired. Another cool thing might be different "versions" as i don't want to impose my particular parts selections on the general building public. E.G.- 5% resistors vs. 1% resistors. different cap manufacturers and so on. Any thoughts, feedback on this would be greatly appreciated. In the meantime, i'll throw one together and feed it into mouser to see what the BOM importer will allow me to get away with as far as spacing, labeling,. etc.
I'll post here with some results soon
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here it is, the first draft. I tried to keep a good balance between low cost and good, useable parts. I also split up the component sections in case one were to already have resistors on hand, etc... Some substitutions of note. The LF444's have been replaced with LF347's, these being the closest thing mouser carries. Can't guarantee it will work, but it is a J-Fet input quad opamp. The LF442 is being replaced by an LF412. This should be fine. C3 is 2.2uf, instead of 2.0. And R6 and R94 are 499? instead of 500?. All resistors are 1% except R5, R7, and R13 which are 5%. Questions, comments, corrections welcomed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

goodrevdoc wrote:
Here it is, the first draft. I tried to keep a good balance between low cost and good, useable parts. I also split up the component sections in case one were to already have resistors on hand, etc... Some substitutions of note. The LF444's have been replaced with LF347's, these being the closest thing mouser carries. Can't guarantee it will work, but it is a J-Fet input quad opamp. The LF442 is being replaced by an LF412. This should be fine. C3 is 2.2uf, instead of 2.0. And R6 and R94 are 499? instead of 500?. All resistors are 1% except R5, R7, and R13 which are 5%. Questions, comments, corrections welcomed.
-justin


WOW!
Nice work, I am sure that many of us will find this very usefull. Thank you!

I just pasted it into the BOM form at Mouser, and it worked great. The only problem being that the headings for "Capacitors" "Potentiometers" etc show up as an invalid part number. (Its trying to read those as though they where parts, it doesnt ignore them as headings/part sections) But thats no problem. Just check the boxes and delete them from the order and all is well.

AND, the costs come out to just under $80 bucks! ($76 bucks, But I am sure that will change from time to time)

That doesnt seem to bad to me. Except a little money could be saved by ordering pots and switches from Small Bear. But I myself would prefer to make one order to one place and get it all. So a few extra bucks is worth it (And probably actually saving on shipping and handling)

So perhaps BOMs could be made for other mods or projects? Like one for Ray's 1v/octave single bus keyboard?

Now, could someone loan me $80 bucks? Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey thanks. Any usefulness that can be had from things like this is the perfect way to pay it forward on all the great info that I've gotten around here. Laughing
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So perhaps BOMs could be made for other mods or projects? Like one for Ray's 1v/octave single bus keyboard?

Yeah, i thought about doing a couple of others. The single bus keyboard and the 16 step sequencer are pretty popular around here, so I may give those a go. It also occurred to me maybe to do versions for other suppliers, for those outside the US or that just don't use mouser. But alas, I am not as familiar with the parts or catalogs of the other suppliers, so i may wait awhile on that one.
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AND, the costs come out to just under $80 bucks! ($76 bucks, But I am sure that will change from time to time)

Yeah, and if you exclude the pots and switches, it's just over twenty!!
-justin
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks! I'm gonna use this when I get the cashmoney together.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Can anyone make a BOM file for the single bus keyboard contr
Subject description: Can anyone make a BOM file for the single bus keyboard controller?
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Can anyone make a BOM file for the single bus keyboard controller?

http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth/SINGLEBUSSKEYBOARD2007/SINGLEBUSSKEYBOARD2007.php
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks a lot for that BOM. I had to separate each line so there was only a part# and a quantity on a line, but it worked great, came to $75 minus battery snaps.
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